Women’s Rights Network imploding

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WTF is going on? There are letters circulating with members alleging bullying, and anyone who asks a question is suspended and comments deleted. The leader calling everyone to urgent meetings with bizarre messaging: ‘there is no letter, and if there is it’s full of lies, and you can’t see the letter just trust us, and ooh look, something shiny!’ Should I cut my losses, cancel my standing order and just follow Let Women Speak?

She was pushed, removed, sacked, dismissed. Choose your term. No criticism of HB goes unpunished I imagine. You WRN women should bring back Shirley. Or get a new Shirley. That was grassroots stuff of the finest type.

Annemarie Ward (CEO of FAVOR UK, recovered addict, and the leading campaigner behind the Right to Recovery Bill) applied to join Women’s Rights Network via their website.
She was then put through a long, Zoom by the WRN coordinators. After all that, she was informed she is not a “suitable fit” for the group.
Let that sink in.
They have rejected one of the most effective, straight-talking advocates for extremely vulnerable women — the ones who’ve been prostituted, trafficked, groomed, abused and destroyed by drugs — because she’s “not the right fit”.
So what exactly is the WRN looking for? Polite, middle-class, inoffensive women who’ve never actually got their hands dirty?
This is peak gatekeeping and snobbery. Very revealing about what WRN actually is.

Too much “competition” for the leadership?

Where do their funds come from? Merch?

Most volunteers get expenses paid, to be fair.

Paying expenses to volunteers is entirely appropriate.

WRN shows as having 4 employees who are each entitled to be paid for the work they carry out.

In a company, directors may or may not be paid but they must be employees.

In a charity it is poor practice to pay trustees but entirely normal to pay employees.

Lol. You think that because I’m anti racist I’m a bloke? Jesus that’s next level anti feminist.

Here we go, that poster from WRN HQ is back. And more propaganda being spouted!

WRN is a voluntary organisation, the Directors are appointed office holders not employees. If they are getting paid, the members who give monthly donations should know that they are, and how much. At the moment they all think they are volunteers. If they are not, be open about that.

Personally, I could not be happier to be out of WRN’s confines. I suggest local groups think seriously about what’s in it for them.

There are no monthly donations. Membership is currently free. Although I gather, from this thread, that may be being reviewed. Directors are not necessarily employees, though they can be and they can be paid.

@TipsyKhakiJoker
Please read the filed accounts - they clearly state 4 employees
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14041486/filing-history

Companies limited by guarantee are not "voluntary"
many of them have employees paid market rates.

I have no idea who the WRN employees are, nor how much they are paid.
As I do not give money to the organisation, I do not particularly care.

I did get grumpy on other threads about a "volunteer run" charity that turned out to be paying a Trustee a LOT of money.
Because that was contrary to proper guidance.

I said donations. I know they don’t charge a fee yet. I know a couple of women who did, or still do, make donations, and I expect many members do. Because they think it’s going to promote women’s rights.

WRN plan to introduce subscription fees in the near future, which could make it harder for some women to participate if they can’t afford it.
Additionally, in the Scotland WRN group chat, there have been regular requests for donations that go directly into the leader’s personal bank account. Many women have contributed regularly, but without receipts or clear accountability.
This raises some questions for me about potential issues with fund management and transparency. Perhaps it’s worth considering pausing donations until there’s more oversight?

Sorry to ask this here but if anyone knows, you all might - does anyone have any contacts at the Brighton branch of WRN? I am desperate to get some eye balls on this important local issue and I am sure they can help but I have been unable to get hold of them... https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5488835-to-ask-for-parents-in-brighton-who-would-object-to-males-being-in-their-daughter-changing-room-without-even-their-knowledge-to-come-forward-and-help-with-this-legal-case

I dont think I have ever heard of a group where potentila members? supporters? are interviewed.

I have heard of groups where you are asked have you read the aims and objectives of the group, and do you support them.

That alone as a process raises all sorts of questions.

Except maybe for Actual Gender Critical Left, where basically you can be part of the group so long as you never disagree with the founding members.

So maybe this been interviewed to see if you are suitable to be a duly subservient spear carrier the the founders( supreme leaders) is in fact an indication of how the group is run.

But still think the dodgiest thing is the appropriation of the name by an unelected group.

The sort of thing that in the commercial world is why you are advised to register the name or your "product".

Anyone got time to do this ASAP?!

You would need to apply to join (and be accepted) to get any names (something I agree with!) You could email WRN explaining what the issue is?

Well for one I’m a dude and for another they don’t answer their emails and this is quite time critical… (it wasn’t when I started trying to ask…)

The interviews were to make sure that the women were who they said they were , for security purposes, not fool proof…
I do remember the occasion when “ trans activist trans woman “ turned up in a zoom meeting, and when a woman pointed out that there was an interloper , Heather Binning just left the meeting, leaving all the other women wondering what hell to do…that’s not leadership, or concern for other women , that’s a farce

Well in a "normal" network you would have available the contact for the network as a whole, and the contact details of your local group, or say a group within the network focusing on schools or what ever.

But I suppose if you dont trust local groups to run themselves then you dont think they should have a contact email!

Some of the questions and concerns being raised in this thread about financial arrangements could easily have been avoided if the Directors of WRN Ltd. had been more transparent.

The fact that WRN Ltd. has four employees is public information, available from "Total exemption full accounts" filed annually with Companies House.

It is not at all unreasonable that WRN Ltd would have employees.

However, this is exactly the sort of information one would expect to see mentioned, or at the very least alluded to, on the WRN website. It is not. Instead the impression is given that all work on behalf of WRN Ltd is undertaken by unpaid volunteers.

For example,

"We are all volunteers so please allow some time for us to get back to you."
https://www.womensrights.network/join-wrn

"Our products are dispatched by various WRN volunteers and so if you order multiple products in the same order they may arrive separately. Our fulfilment team is made up of WRN volunteers but we work hard to dispatch all orders promptly."
https://www.womensrights.network/policies/terms-and-conditions

Directors may also be paid but that is not to say that they are paid.

Articles of Association

19. Directors' remuneration

(1) Directors may undertake any services for the Company that the directors decide.
(2) Directors are entitled to such remuneration as the directors determine:
(a) For their services to the Company as directors, and
(b) for any other service which they undertake for the company.
(3) Subject to the articles, a director's remuneration may:
(a) Take any form, and
(b) include any arrangements in connection with the payment of a pension, allowance or gratuity, or any death, sickness or disability benefits, to or in respect of that director.
(4) Unless the directors decide otherwise, directors' remuneration accrues from day to day.
(5) Unless the directors decide otherwise, directors are not accountable to the Company for any remuneration which they receive as directors or other officers or employees of the Company's subsidiaries or of any other body corporate in which the Company is interested.

Directors' expenses

The company may pay any reasonable expenses which the directors property incur in connection with their attendance at-
(a) meetings of directors or committees of directors;
(b) general meetings, or
(c) separate meetings of the holders of debentures of the Company;
or otherwise in connection with the exercise of their powers and the discharge of their responsibilities in relation to the Company.

Every set of accounts filed with Companies House shows that either £960 or £959 has been loaned to WRN Ltd. by one or more of the Directors. It is therefore possible that one or more of the Directors are out of pocket by the end of each financial year.

As previous posters have pointed out, WRN Ltd. does not have any members. Therefore "members" in paragraph 36 of the Articles of Association does not refer to WRN members, it refers to WRN Ltd members, of which there are zero.

36 No right to inspect accounts and other records
Except as provided by law or authorised by the directors or an ordinary resolution of the Company, no person is entitled to inspect any of the Company's accounting or other records or documents merely by virtue of being a member.

The Directors of WRN Ltd. are entitled to withhold or disclose information about payments to employees and Directors as they see fit.

They have chosen not to be transparent and have even, by omission of information on the WRN website, chosen to give the public and donors the misleading impression that all activities on behalf of WRN Ltd. are conducted by volunteers.

To be honest, this seems to be the least of the concerns raised in this thread but it could be easily addressed if the Directors chose to operate with more transparency.

(There have been seven new posts since I started writing this. It is not in reply to anyone in particular.)

Yes, I recall none other than the notorious Fred Wallace!

Did this really happen?

They are a grassroots organisation of Scottish women that know humans come in 2 sexes, and humans can't change between them. No membership fee, no grievance procedures.

Yes.
Fred got into a zoom and then started screenshotting women's faces and names.
He then tried to share it on X
(I was not there but saw the aftermath on X)

For the many women who could lose their jobs if they were outed as non adherents to gender woo it was deeply concerning.

Just because WRN are paranoid about vetting does not mean TRAs are not out to get them.

As previous posters have pointed out, WRN Ltd. does not have any members. Therefore "members" in paragraph 36 of the Articles of Association does not refer to WRN members, it refers to WRN Ltd members, of which there are zero.

The number of WRN Ltd members is not zero. There is one - HB

Yes. Fred posted screenshots and video of the Zoom showing women's faces and their names. I think he might have written an article about it as well as posting on Social Media. It unfolded exactly as described by a PP, as shown in Fred's video.

I stand corrected 🫡