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Women’s Rights Network imploding

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NameChangedWren · 02/02/2026 18:21

WTF is going on? There are letters circulating with members alleging bullying, and anyone who asks a question is suspended and comments deleted. The leader calling everyone to urgent meetings with bizarre messaging: ‘there is no letter, and if there is it’s full of lies, and you can’t see the letter just trust us, and ooh look, something shiny!’ Should I cut my losses, cancel my standing order and just follow Let Women Speak?

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Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 20:51

"WRN only post on X"
thaat will be news to Facebook, Linkedin and Instagram

The "Women of" groups are indeed brilliant against their local councils but impacting across the board requires coordination.

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 20:54

@EqualiteaSpiller
Well, first off, I’d scrap the autocratic solo act where Heather Binning’s the sole director, secretary
She isn't so that is sorted already.

How would YOU run it ?

RhannionKPSS · 05/03/2026 21:01

NameChangedWren · 05/03/2026 20:37

If you are in good faith - which I doubt - I can answer.
I would go back to the locally organised, collaborative Shoppers model. It’s not difficult to do FOIs that way, groups did that without any need for a registered company. Volunteers write the reports and would continue to do so.
Social media posting? Could not care less. WRN only post on X, everyone on there a
has already taken a side. They can carry on shouting into an echo chamber, who cares.
Lobby days? Oh come on. WRN is hanging on the coat tails of Sex Matters. Those would happen without any input from WRN.

They are indeed hanging of the coat tails of others as they always have.
For Women Scotland and MBM are far more effective and important than WRN are especially now

Niven · 05/03/2026 21:03

Niven · 05/03/2026 20:47

I will assume that you are asking in good faith as I know deflection is a well used WRN tactic.

  1. Do not ignore those who politely dissent the direction of travel. They are helping your organisation to evolve healthily.
  2. Do not assume that those who express polite dissent are “trying to take over”. That’s just insecurity.
  3. Do not throw large amounts of members out when “breaches of security” are merely someone commenting that WRN members groups being “restructured” means that everyone in a specific action group (police, prisons, healthcare etc) has to reapply for membership of that group & emails are being ignored.
  4. Pay attention to those in a specific group who have experience in that area & don’t just tell them that the admins will decide what to focus on.
  5. Don’t insist that ALL the admins are in ALL the groups. Women know this is a method of control.
  6. If a member sees an event where it would be useful to have a WRN member as an observer, don’t just reply “I don’t know anyone who is able to attend” without asking the members if they are able to go. That translates as “neither I nor the others in the inner circle are able to go”.
  7. Stop ignoring why your membership might be falling, other than the great pogroms of Scotland (62) & Buckinghamshire (80 plus).
Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:18

Stop ignoring why your membership might be falling, other than the great pogroms of Scotland (62) & Buckinghamshire (80 plus).

So this confuses me.
I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

where are people getting their numbers from
and what are the criteria?

Niven · 05/03/2026 21:29

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:18

Stop ignoring why your membership might be falling, other than the great pogroms of Scotland (62) & Buckinghamshire (80 plus).

So this confuses me.
I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

where are people getting their numbers from
and what are the criteria?

Did you not get emails from WRN? If so they regard you as a member.

RhannionKPSS · 05/03/2026 21:29

FairIsFairIsFair · 05/03/2026 15:51

Has there been any attempt at explaining why WRN likened their ‘cancellation’ by Alloa Women’s Festival to what happened to Sandie Peggie? I still can’t link the two things 🤔

“…actions sadly reminiscent of what happened to Sandie Peggie.”

No one else can find the connection either

Niven · 05/03/2026 21:31

RhannionKPSS · 05/03/2026 21:29

No one else can find the connection either

It’s illogical nonsense. Look there’s a squirrel is much more effective.

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:46

Niven · 05/03/2026 21:29

Did you not get emails from WRN? If so they regard you as a member.

Could you link to where it says that email subscribers are deemed as members ?

Ditto for Filia
Ditto for Sex Matters
Ditto for WRN

Getting emails does not make one a "member" unless the email says its a "members email"

I run a club - we have public emails and member emails
we know who our members are
for ICO and insurance purposes

NameChangedWren · 05/03/2026 21:54

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 20:51

"WRN only post on X"
thaat will be news to Facebook, Linkedin and Instagram

The "Women of" groups are indeed brilliant against their local councils but impacting across the board requires coordination.

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ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 21:56

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:46

Could you link to where it says that email subscribers are deemed as members ?

Ditto for Filia
Ditto for Sex Matters
Ditto for WRN

Getting emails does not make one a "member" unless the email says its a "members email"

I run a club - we have public emails and member emails
we know who our members are
for ICO and insurance purposes

I run a club - we have public emails and member emails
we know who our members are
for ICO and insurance purposes

Some of your posts are a bit cryptic. Are you referring to WRN?

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:56

NameChangedWren · 05/03/2026 21:54

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Well yes, that is how social media works for every organisation.

You said they didn't, they do.
as do SM and Filia and co

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:58

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 21:56

I run a club - we have public emails and member emails
we know who our members are
for ICO and insurance purposes

Some of your posts are a bit cryptic. Are you referring to WRN?

No, the club I run has absolutely nothing to do with WRN.

its much more boring and geeky

RhannionKPSS · 05/03/2026 22:01

Heminist · 04/03/2026 20:48

I believe you’re practicing what’s called transference …
Just to be clear, threatening to verbally abuse women who’ve paid for tickets to an event is exactly the same as TRA tactics.
So let’s see what happens on Saturday.
Ta ta for now.

Au Revoir

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:07

EqualiteaSpiller · 05/03/2026 20:30

Oh, darling, if I were in charge of WRN Ltd? Well, first off, I’d scrap the autocratic solo act where Heather Binning’s the sole director, secretary, and queen of the castle, hoarding all the power like it’s her personal fiefdom—complete with bullying allegations, suspended members for daring to ask questions, and those “terrifying witch hunts” that have your own ranks whispering in fear. That’s not leadership; that’s a one-woman echo chamber on steroids, darling, and it’s why branches are folding and the “thousands” myth is crumbling faster than your credibility.
The right way? Start with actual democracy: Elect a proper board through transparent member votes, not this handpicked inner circle of coordinators who parrot the party line while the rest get Zoom-trapped for dissent. Open up finances for real scrutiny (beyond the bare-minimum ICO filings that scream “minimal compliance”), and empower regional reps who represent grassroots voices, not just enforce top-down decrees.
For mass FOIs and report collations: Set up collaborative online platforms where members can crowdsource and contribute without the threat of deletion or exile—think secure, inclusive tools that harness collective smarts, not Heather’s solo script.
Social media reach? Ditch the centralized control freakery; train and trust local groups to amplify messages authentically, boosting engagement without the scripted sneers that alienate everyone outside your bubble.
House of Commons lobby days? Inclusive planning committees with diverse member input, rotating leadership to avoid burnout and favoritism, and real outreach to build coalitions instead of alienating allies with your “imploding” drama.
But here’s the tea, pet: If Heather’s doing it “wrong,” it’s because the whole setup’s a relic of unaccountable power that’s driving your supposed “thousands” (ha, pull the other one—your 2022 online puffery doesn’t match the 2026 exodus reality) straight out the door. Keep clutching that indefensible throne; it’s screaming “desperate denial” in full technicolor while the ship sinks around you.

Does anyone legit want to claim this person, or are they just some sort of mad TRA? American spelling of favoritism ???

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 22:07

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:18

Stop ignoring why your membership might be falling, other than the great pogroms of Scotland (62) & Buckinghamshire (80 plus).

So this confuses me.
I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

where are people getting their numbers from
and what are the criteria?

I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

That's strange. Are you not familiar with these documents?

WRN – NEW MEMBER PROCESS AND GUIDELINES
Version 07/24

WRN MEMBER GUIDELINES
Version – 07/25

Would you like me to post screenshots for you?

NameChangedWren · 05/03/2026 22:11

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:07

Does anyone legit want to claim this person, or are they just some sort of mad TRA? American spelling of favoritism ???

Oh look, @LordArnoldsWife is not just the tone police, she’s spelling police too! There are just SO many good ways to ignore the excellent points people are making, aren’t there?

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LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:13

Talkinpeace · 05/03/2026 21:46

Could you link to where it says that email subscribers are deemed as members ?

Ditto for Filia
Ditto for Sex Matters
Ditto for WRN

Getting emails does not make one a "member" unless the email says its a "members email"

I run a club - we have public emails and member emails
we know who our members are
for ICO and insurance purposes

I tthink member in this context simply means anyone who has passed the vetting process and been given access.

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:16

NameChangedWren · 05/03/2026 22:11

Oh look, @LordArnoldsWife is not just the tone police, she’s spelling police too! There are just SO many good ways to ignore the excellent points people are making, aren’t there?

You keep promoting me. I'm flattered.
I guess you do claim the weird poster as one of your own then.

Seriestwo · 05/03/2026 22:17

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 22:07

I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

That's strange. Are you not familiar with these documents?

WRN – NEW MEMBER PROCESS AND GUIDELINES
Version 07/24

WRN MEMBER GUIDELINES
Version – 07/25

Would you like me to post screenshots for you?

Me too, I don’t know if I’m a member or not. I don’t think I get all the emails. I want to get work done but this feels like more energy is spent telling women off than trying to change things.

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 22:19

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 22:07

I was in a twitter shoppers group
it then became a WRN group
I am not a "member" of anything
I pay nothing
I sign nothing
so I am really struggling to understand the bandying about of WRN "membership"

That's strange. Are you not familiar with these documents?

WRN – NEW MEMBER PROCESS AND GUIDELINES
Version 07/24

WRN MEMBER GUIDELINES
Version – 07/25

Would you like me to post screenshots for you?

I do hope that WRN Membership Dept women are following this thread.

They must find it quite concerning to discover that someone who claims to be in a WRN Group is completely unaware that they are a member of WRN and should be following WRN Member Guidelines.

Perhaps others on this thread who claim to be supporting WRN Ltd. and have been vituperative in their allegations against women criticising or asking inconvenient questions about WRN Ltd. are also unaware that if they are WRN Members then they should be following WRN Member Guidelines?

RhannionKPSS · 05/03/2026 22:24

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:13

I tthink member in this context simply means anyone who has passed the vetting process and been given access.

Vetting? Security ? Really ?
How about the time Fred Wallace got on a Zoom meeting and Heather buggered off and left all the women on the Zoom adrift? Not much vetting going on then

ThimbleThief · 05/03/2026 22:27

Seriestwo · 05/03/2026 22:17

Me too, I don’t know if I’m a member or not. I don’t think I get all the emails. I want to get work done but this feels like more energy is spent telling women off than trying to change things.

Me too, I don’t know if I’m a member or not.

I am wondering now if this might also apply to women who were purged from WRN for breach of the Member Guidelines? That is, that maybe they were unaware that there were WRN Guidelines and if they did not follow them then they would be expelled?

There has been a lot of boosting of the good job that WRN is doing communicating with people outside of WRN, eg. on social media, but it appears that communication within WRN with members might need some urgent attention.

TipsyKhakiJoker · 05/03/2026 22:31

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:13

I tthink member in this context simply means anyone who has passed the vetting process and been given access.

Passed the vetting process and been given access

LordArnoldsWife · 05/03/2026 22:35

There are just SO many good ways to ignore the excellent points people are making, aren’t there?

Some of the points are excellent but you have given us no evidence that the WRN co-ordinators are not already doing most of them. All we have is a series of documents where what you say is contradicted by what they say. A series of posts where you claim bad things happened, that the rest of us have no way of verifying. Posts that suggest your people skills would not be a huge asset in any sort of organisation.

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