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Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton, following Employment Tribunal judgment - thread #61

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nauticant · 08/01/2026 19:40

Judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6936ce28a6fc97b81e57436a/S_Peggie_v_Fife_Health_Board__Dr_Upton.pdf

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence was 29 July 2025. It resumed again over 1 to 2 September for closing submissions.

Following handing down of the judgment on 8 December 2025, on 11 December 2025, it was announced by Sandie Peggie and her legal team that they would be pursuing an appeal.

The hearing was live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

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hellsbells99 · 09/01/2026 18:16

I have signed - thanks for the link

stickygotstuck · 09/01/2026 18:52

Thanks 🙏.
Signed too.

anyolddinosaur · 09/01/2026 18:54

Signed, as has DH - over 27k now.

moto748e · 09/01/2026 19:00

Signed.

lcakethereforeIam · 09/01/2026 19:01

I was just looking at the Government petition site. They have responded to the petition asking for an enquiry into sexual violence in NHS hospitals. I'm not sure if MN will allow the link so here's the response

"Government responded
This response was given on 23 October 2025
Sexual misconduct in NHS settings is unacceptable. We are working with system partners to eradicate sexual misconduct in the NHS. The Government has no plans to launch an inquiry at this time.
Read the response in full
We are ensuring health care leaders in the NHS take robust, compassionate action to address and reduce all forms of sexual misconduct and harassment within their organisations and to ensure a safe environment for staff and patients.
It is entirely unacceptable for anyone to experience any form of sexual misconduct, including violence and harassment, within NHS settings.
Since 2023, the NHS Sexual Safety Charter – which promotes a zero tolerance approach towards sexual misconduct in the NHS – has been adopted by every Integrated Care Board (ICB) and NHS Trust in England. The Charter asks all ICBs and Trusts (all of which have an executive-level lead for domestic abuse and sexual violence) to adopt particular standards in the identification and investigation of staff sexual misconduct cases.
To support delivery of the Charter, NHS England has developed a national NHS people policy framework on sexual misconduct, e-learning for all staff on sexual misconduct, a communications toolkit, and an assurance framework for Charter implementation.
These resources provide information about how to recognise, report and act on sexual misconduct; an approach to taking action when a report is made; and the support available to people involved or harmed. The sexual misconduct policy framework, for Trusts and ICBs to adopt and adapt, sets out how reports should be handled. NHS England is measuring the uptake of the framework across all Trusts and ICBs, including gathering key feedback about its impact and effectiveness so far. Feedback will be used to identify areas where organisations need support with implementation to achieve an accountable sexual safety culture.
NHS England has recently written to providers and asked them to take further steps to identify potential perpetrators of sexual misconduct and to redouble efforts to protect staff and patients.
The Professional Standards Authority has produced guidance on sexual boundaries to support professional regulators, such as the General Medical Council (GMC) and the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC), in meeting their statutory duty to investigate concerns raised about healthcare professionals. For example, the GMC has published new resources including new GMC resources to support victims and survivors of sexual misconduct by doctors. The Government has also confirmed its commitment to prioritising the reform of healthcare professional regulation in the UK. This includes modernising the regulatory framework for doctors and, as part of that, removing the GMC’s five-year rule which restricts the GMC from investigating some historic concerns such as allegations of sexual misconduct.
The Government’s 10 Year Health Plan sets out standards for the NHS workforce and will be produced in conjunction with the Social Partnership Forum. These include reducing the levels of violence and sexual harassment against staff.
The Care Quality Commission (CQC) addresses sexual safety within its Assessment Framework, assessing if providers have cultures and processes to protect people from sexual harm. CQC uses analysis of the NHS Staff Survey questions relating to sexual safety, incidents data and complaints data, among other evidence, to make informed decisions. Where CQC finds that NHS services do not prevent sexual misconduct, it can act using regulatory powers, or by referring the service to the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
The NHS Staff Survey now includes two new questions on unwanted behaviour of a sexual nature. These help trusts understand the prevalence of sexual misconduct in their workplace and informs further action to protect and support staff across the NHS.
The Equality Act 2010 gives legal protections against sexual harassment at work. Yet, reports in recent years show that it remains a problem. To address this, a new duty on employers to take ‘reasonable steps’ to prevent sexual harassment of their employees came into force on 26 October 2024. The Government will strengthen this duty through the Employment Rights Bill, clarifying that employers must take ‘all reasonable steps’ to prevent sexual harassment of their employees and for employers not to permit the harassment of their employees by third parties. The Bill includes a measure that will expressly make sexual harassment the basis for a protected disclosure. This will provide clarity for workers and have benefits, including encouraging workers to speak up about sexual harassment by using whistleblowing routes.
Sexual Assault Referral Centres offer medical, practical and emotional support to anyone who has been raped, sexually assaulted or abused, and are available to all victims and survivors of sexual violence and abuse, whether recent or non-recent.
NHS England, ICBs, providers, professional regulators and the wider system represent an urgent and collective effort to enact positive change and eradicate the abhorrent behaviours described in various independent reports about sexual misconduct in the NHS.

Department of Health and Social Care"

It's got just under 20,000 signatures. I don't think it will get 100,000 by the time it closes on 6th March.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 20:40

Puberty blocker petition now just hitting 30K.

Also just saying I'm in awe, again, of @nauticant and her tireless and peerless curation of these threads. We are all in your debt.

JeannieDark · 09/01/2026 20:50

Signed

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 20:51

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 20:40

Puberty blocker petition now just hitting 30K.

Also just saying I'm in awe, again, of @nauticant and her tireless and peerless curation of these threads. We are all in your debt.

Just 10 minutes later and on 30155

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 09/01/2026 20:55

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 20:51

Just 10 minutes later and on 30155

And if you look at the map, it doesn’t look like there is a single constituency with 0 signatures.

Freda69 · 09/01/2026 20:56

30256 now

PachacutisBadAuntie · 09/01/2026 20:59

anyolddinosaur · 09/01/2026 18:54

Signed, as has DH - over 27k now.

Also just signed, over 30000 now

ETA I'm behind! But here's a map
https://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting.com/?petition=751839

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 21:05

Really happy to see how many people local to me have signed it, our ( labour) MP changed when the boundaries were moved so it might be worth an email to see what their position is.

moto748e · 09/01/2026 21:15

Only 49 signatures in my constituency, but I saw little point in reporting to my MP, who listens to nothing.

NotAtMyAge · 09/01/2026 21:25

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 09/01/2026 20:55

And if you look at the map, it doesn’t look like there is a single constituency with 0 signatures.

Having just looked at the map I came here to say that.

borntobequiet · 09/01/2026 21:29

It’s great to see it clicking up so fast!

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 21:41

Great Yarmouth (Richard Tice) is well in the lead.

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 21:42

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 21:41

Great Yarmouth (Richard Tice) is well in the lead.

I just asked about this on the petition thread - I wonder why it’s so much higher there?

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 21:43

moto748e · 09/01/2026 21:15

Only 49 signatures in my constituency, but I saw little point in reporting to my MP, who listens to nothing.

Same here. I've contacted her on a couple of occasions on related subjects and not even had an acknowledgement from here (and yes I did use the correct email address). She's a LD though, elected only in 2024, so no surprise there.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 21:43

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 21:42

I just asked about this on the petition thread - I wonder why it’s so much higher there?

Isn't Reform famously GC though (at least publicly)?

IfalldownbutIgetupagain · 09/01/2026 21:46

My lack of political knowledge showed, I didn’t realise he was Reform, thanks

lcakethereforeIam · 09/01/2026 21:53

I think it's not so much Reform being GC as voters who would prefer to vote Labour or LD or even Green, not being able to stomach their gender insanity. It leaves a space of disillusioned voters where Reform sneaks in. Possibly they're engaged in looking for signs of sense in their preferred parties and hence come across things like this petition. An opportunity to send a message to the gender-addled.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/01/2026 22:07

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 21:41

Great Yarmouth (Richard Tice) is well in the lead.

Isn't that Rupert Lowe?

ProfessorBinturong · 09/01/2026 22:11

Intriguing hotspot in Upper Bann as well (DUP, Carla Lockhart).

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 09/01/2026 22:17

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/01/2026 22:07

Isn't that Rupert Lowe?

Sorry, my mistake!
It's Rupert Lowe, Independent.
He was elected for Reform.