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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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lcakethereforeIam · 18/12/2025 20:55

I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

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Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 11:31

Phillipson will keep dragging this out. The schools guidance is still not published. I think her M O must be shelve it till she is no longer the responsible minister so she doesn’t have to deal with anything to do with protecting children or women.

moto748e · 01/01/2026 11:31

even here he remains a politician to his core.

Yes, and a pretty poor one too. We've seen his tin ear before, with winter fuel allowance and other issues. Even on a pragmatic level, we've surely reached the point where a firm position on gender from the LP as a whole would gain more votes than it would lose? But no, cowards, the lot of them.

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 11:39

As I have said previously, the obvious exceptions are for health and safety.

Toilets need to be cleaned. Sometimes is safer for the cleaner to be a male cleaner. Women cleaners have been attacked. We have all seen the bollards opening the outer door to make the toilets more visible. This enables a woman to judge whether she wants to enter that space.

Children have also been led into toilets by someone holding their hand, or attacked once they are in there. I know of multiple examples eg. in a well know supermarket, a shopping centre, a train carriage, a school. So that’s a safety reason mums should take in their sons and dads their daughters. It is also a reason that enclosed toilet design shouldn’t be standard. If the male and female toilets have door gaps, whatever is going on in the cubicle to the occupants has the potential to be witnessed audibly or visually. That serves as prevention for misuse. But as the Health and Safety Executive emailed to me, the only toilet cubicles that should have door gaps are those in a single sex environment.

Common sense exceptions.

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 11:41

Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 11:31

Phillipson will keep dragging this out. The schools guidance is still not published. I think her M O must be shelve it till she is no longer the responsible minister so she doesn’t have to deal with anything to do with protecting children or women.

25% of schools have unisex toilets. Schools can argue that this was DfE policy. It’s a bit of a headache financially.

SionnachRuadh · 01/01/2026 11:49

Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 11:31

Phillipson will keep dragging this out. The schools guidance is still not published. I think her M O must be shelve it till she is no longer the responsible minister so she doesn’t have to deal with anything to do with protecting children or women.

I claim no inside knowledge, but I suspect Phillipson has palmed this off on her junior Olivia Bailey, who holds the equalities brief for alphabet community issues. I base that on Labour seeing it as a trans issue rather than a women's issue. I would be pleasantly surprised, but very surprised, if Bailey departs from Stonewall orthodoxy.

moto748e · 01/01/2026 12:10

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 11:41

25% of schools have unisex toilets. Schools can argue that this was DfE policy. It’s a bit of a headache financially.

Which is a disgrace. I wonder how many parents are aware of this?

1984Now · 01/01/2026 12:28

Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 11:31

Phillipson will keep dragging this out. The schools guidance is still not published. I think her M O must be shelve it till she is no longer the responsible minister so she doesn’t have to deal with anything to do with protecting children or women.

Badenoch and Farage need to start highlighting this every day until there's a resolution. Ditto journalists at every interview of Q&A.

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 13:11

moto748e · 01/01/2026 12:10

Which is a disgrace. I wonder how many parents are aware of this?

I expect the 25%! Schools have been the canaries in the coal mine for mixed sex toilets. The results are not great for health and safety. I sent my report to as many in the government as I could and the HSE.

The DfE could not supply me with risk assessments or EIA for their private designs.

KitWyn · 01/01/2026 13:18

Phillipson is a captured, cowardly fool. She has chosen, through her deliberate inaction, to champion a small number of very creepy, selfish men. These men, who are often scary, loud and very active on social media, desperately want to continue to perform their sexual fetish in women's spaces. And women and girls must continue to be forced to be part of the men's grotesque performance of 'womanhood'.

Enabling the 'rights' of men with fetishes, and thus protecting her career/public image with her leftwing colleagues/supporters, is Phillipson's top priority. For this, she's willing to sacrifice the safety and wellbeing of millions of British women and girls, and delay the EHRC Code as long as possible.

It's not only morally wrong but politically very stupid. Starmer should have already sacked Phillipson for deliberately thwarting the Rule of Law. He now looks (and is) a weak, indecisive and hypocritical leader in name only. He was Head of our Crown Prosecution Service. He can't pretend he doesn't know that our core enlightenment values and principles are at risk if flouting the law by government ministers now has no consequences.

I was so very hopeful that Starmer and his government were going to provide the stable, reassuringly dull, yet competent and warmly sensible leadership the UK needs. He is such a massive, massive disappointment. And I am very angry at this betrayal.

Pingponghavoc · 01/01/2026 13:20

My children primary school rushed in mixed toilets for no real reason. The argument was that the new design had acces to both classrooms and to the outside playing area. When i asked about children needing single sex toilets, i was told that the design complied.

By the time my children got to secondary, the pupils had organised that one side of the mixed toilets there were for girls and the other for boys. Neither my daughter nor son were happy to use them though.

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 13:31

Pingponghavoc · 01/01/2026 13:20

My children primary school rushed in mixed toilets for no real reason. The argument was that the new design had acces to both classrooms and to the outside playing area. When i asked about children needing single sex toilets, i was told that the design complied.

By the time my children got to secondary, the pupils had organised that one side of the mixed toilets there were for girls and the other for boys. Neither my daughter nor son were happy to use them though.

There’s a really serious side to this too. If any child has a medical emergency, they won’t be found as quickly as if someone notices they are on the floor of the cubicle. There are parents of children with conditions like diabetes and epilepsy that are scared about the design changes.

1984Now · 01/01/2026 13:34

KitWyn · 01/01/2026 13:18

Phillipson is a captured, cowardly fool. She has chosen, through her deliberate inaction, to champion a small number of very creepy, selfish men. These men, who are often scary, loud and very active on social media, desperately want to continue to perform their sexual fetish in women's spaces. And women and girls must continue to be forced to be part of the men's grotesque performance of 'womanhood'.

Enabling the 'rights' of men with fetishes, and thus protecting her career/public image with her leftwing colleagues/supporters, is Phillipson's top priority. For this, she's willing to sacrifice the safety and wellbeing of millions of British women and girls, and delay the EHRC Code as long as possible.

It's not only morally wrong but politically very stupid. Starmer should have already sacked Phillipson for deliberately thwarting the Rule of Law. He now looks (and is) a weak, indecisive and hypocritical leader in name only. He was Head of our Crown Prosecution Service. He can't pretend he doesn't know that our core enlightenment values and principles are at risk if flouting the law by government ministers now has no consequences.

I was so very hopeful that Starmer and his government were going to provide the stable, reassuringly dull, yet competent and warmly sensible leadership the UK needs. He is such a massive, massive disappointment. And I am very angry at this betrayal.

She showed her true colours within microseconds of getting the Edu Sec job, she cancelled the FE Free Speech law, despite huge opposition from almost everyone, incl deans and senior academics.
So here, she jumps to action to tie her colours to the anti Tory banner, demonstrating her fealty to the worst kind of class war politics.
And on the SC ruling, her colours are again flown clearly, but now the opposite of motivated action, here it's her inaction in the clear face of the law and legally cleared ECHR declaration, that shows her purely playing politics.
She is a disgrace in every way, and substantially aids the likelihood of a Reform Tory govt in 2029 that will enact the SC ruling.

1984Now · 01/01/2026 13:38

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 13:31

There’s a really serious side to this too. If any child has a medical emergency, they won’t be found as quickly as if someone notices they are on the floor of the cubicle. There are parents of children with conditions like diabetes and epilepsy that are scared about the design changes.

Every step of the way, the political classes would rather endanger and inconvenience so many for the comfort and demands of so few.
It's as if as the West entered a truly post-God period in the 90s and 00s, a God-shaped void had to be filled by religious mantras created by technocratic atheists.

ILoveLaLaLand · 01/01/2026 13:54

MistyGreenAndBlue · 01/01/2026 04:47

I think in most cases, if not all, the women waiting would let a desperate pregnant woman jump the queue. I'm damn sure I would

No woman would stop a pregnant woman skipping the queue to pee.

Keeptoiletssafe · 01/01/2026 14:21

ILoveLaLaLand · 01/01/2026 13:54

No woman would stop a pregnant woman skipping the queue to pee.

That was bizarre. I hope the judge picks up on that too.

ItsCoolForCats · 01/01/2026 14:58

Meanwhile, this is Amnesty's take on the Supreme Court judgement (pic should upload shortly). Posted on their Facebook page. They are such a disappointment.

Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance
ItsCoolForCats · 01/01/2026 15:04

ItsCoolForCats · 01/01/2026 14:58

Meanwhile, this is Amnesty's take on the Supreme Court judgement (pic should upload shortly). Posted on their Facebook page. They are such a disappointment.

Amnesty's statement as the pic is a bit blurry:

"As the year draws to a close, we can seek inspiration from the protests around the country in response to the Supreme Court ruling on 16th April 2025 which dealt a blow to the rights and dignity of trans people.

Thousands upon thousands of people gathered - from Hastings to London to Glasgow - to say: we will always stand with trans people.

The UK used to be top of the Europe LGBTI equality index in 2015 but it’s been going downhill since then and this year we dropped to 22nd place. The steady erosion of trans rights is one of the main reasons for this shocking decline.

Groups and individuals who want to remove our hard-won rights are mobilising to restrict the right to freedom of expression and bodily autonomy for women and LGBTI people - including trying to restrict relationship and sex education and attempting to remove books telling the stories of LGBT+ characters from libraries.

In 2026, we must continue to expose and defeat them".

Shameful 😞

Pingponghavoc · 01/01/2026 15:15

All of these organisations are run by idiots who don't know the first thing about safeguarding, and are silent when safeguarding failures arise.

They are basically fund raising organisations hiding behind a cause.

moto748e · 01/01/2026 15:26

Shameful indeed. And they have the front to bring up the topic of book-banning?

The LGB really must be separated from the rest.

1984Now · 01/01/2026 15:52

I wonder how healthy UK contributions to Amnesty and all the other major charities are ever since they overstepped the mark for criticising stuff like this, defacto Brits support for such policies?

FallenSloppyDead2 · 01/01/2026 16:00

@ItsCoolForCats The UK used to be top of the Europe LGBTI equality index in 2015 but it’s been going downhill since then and this year we dropped to 22nd place.

I suspect that there is a big clue here. I think a lot of politicians consider national politics to be a bit of a parochial backwater and instead enjoy dreams of striding across the world stage. I imagine the International Movement of Progressives on the RSOH are giving UK Labour an awful lot of grief post-FWS. The TERFs of the UK have severely embarrassed Labour in front of their cool friends and a way to thwart FWS must be found, lest we start a domino effect in other 'progressive' countries.
Maybe Phillipson has a cunning plan. Maybe she has washed her hands of it. Maybe she is just hoping that 'something will turn up'. What is certain, is that any attempt to thwart the SC is going to be closely watched now. The days of sneaking around behind women's backs are over, for all UK political parties.

Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 16:11

An article in the Tele.

https://archive.is/M8Abs

Labour ‘lost focus on why single-sex spaces matter’

1 Jan 2026
1.59 pm

From the article

She told the Political Currency podcast: “Feminists and campaigners fought for a very, very long time to establish that principle and it is an important principle, but it’s there for a good reason because it’s about safety for women and about having the space and the time to really heal after trauma.

“But I don’t see that as being in conflict with making sure you can treat trans people with dignity and respect as well.
“The challenge over a long time hasn’t just been about campaigners arguing to get, for example, women’s refuges… Actually if you’re going to deliver homelessness provision you want to make sure you’ve got good provision for young women who have different needs to young men. Often those young women have experienced sexual abuse in childhood.

“It’s not appropriate for them to be accommodated alongside older men who also have their own problems. It’s those kinds of questions and I think we slightly lost focus on why it was in the first place that we believed that women-only spaces mattered.”

Stopbringingmicehome · 01/01/2026 16:30

Pingponghavoc · 01/01/2026 15:15

All of these organisations are run by idiots who don't know the first thing about safeguarding, and are silent when safeguarding failures arise.

They are basically fund raising organisations hiding behind a cause.

What an excellent point. I've stopped donating to oxfam and the like since I started reading about trans inclusion in major charities. I now donate to sex matters , feminist crowd funders and the trusses trust. So I hope I'm not funding anti women groups

teawamutu · 01/01/2026 16:39

Helleofabore · 01/01/2026 16:11

An article in the Tele.

https://archive.is/M8Abs

Labour ‘lost focus on why single-sex spaces matter’

1 Jan 2026
1.59 pm

From the article

She told the Political Currency podcast: “Feminists and campaigners fought for a very, very long time to establish that principle and it is an important principle, but it’s there for a good reason because it’s about safety for women and about having the space and the time to really heal after trauma.

“But I don’t see that as being in conflict with making sure you can treat trans people with dignity and respect as well.
“The challenge over a long time hasn’t just been about campaigners arguing to get, for example, women’s refuges… Actually if you’re going to deliver homelessness provision you want to make sure you’ve got good provision for young women who have different needs to young men. Often those young women have experienced sexual abuse in childhood.

“It’s not appropriate for them to be accommodated alongside older men who also have their own problems. It’s those kinds of questions and I think we slightly lost focus on why it was in the first place that we believed that women-only spaces mattered.”

Interesting. The start of a reverse ferret, perhaps?

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