Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

OK sorry to accuse you of supporting Reform- I take that straight back.

I just think sometimes it’s getting way to simplistic what we expect from politics. We don’t have to agree or disagree with everything that a politician stands for to vote or not vote for them. it’s always going to be a complicated and often messy personal compromise (unless you’re in a position to vote for yourself and are also exceptionally overconfident in your own capacities..)

And because compromise is always needed in practical politics and effective government, all of these strongman extremist authoritarian dick swinger politicians like Farage and Trump are absolutely terrifying. They just do what the hell they like and what personally enriches them and keeps us all cowed and unquestioning as a population. That’s what authoritarian governments always do.

I don’t have time to list the many many horrors under Trump to tally up against a couple of good moves he has made but they are all a very short Google away.

I agree with you. But now you have to look at politics in reverse. It used to be, I approve of that party, their leader, their policies. And I trust their program will be enacted.
Labour after the war, Wilson in the late 60s, Thatcher, Blair.
Today, I at any rate, can't conclude anything other than they're all rotten, all untrustworthy, all unprincipled. But which one is least worst.
That's what I mean by voting now being "he/she says -that-, I must assume not -that-, but -this-, who's most likely to least enact -this-, and thus most likely to enact -that-"
I genuinely contend that Starmer is on a par with Johnson in terms of disreputableness.
Cameron, May, Truss, Sunak...they're not even at the races.
Johnson enacted the Boriswave which arguably is the biggest most irreversible demographic change to this country in history.
Starmer cannot stop interfering with democratic norms in this country, destroying the myth that the ultimate rule of law type in power won't subvert democracy to any agenda he chooses.
The only reason the current SC ruling obfuscation by Starmer Phillipson isn't as much a day to day scandal as the PartyGate revelations were, is that the establishment are happy with their take here.
Had any Tory PM done this, the establishment/liberal left media ecosphere would be tearing at the doors of No. 10, endless pieces on the law of the jungle replacing the rule of law, kleptocracy just around the corner.

And yet how would women know, and who is on the door to stop him?

Dolotowski is one of several TiM who is a serial offender, pops out of prison, does it again, and goes back in. There just needs to be a blanket ban. It's the only enforcable thing.

And you can never get Philipson or any of them to acknowledge - as they let a man in, they shut some women out. Why does only the man's inclusion matter? Who's running to provide third spaces for the women who cannot use a mixed sex space, even if the man in question is utterly lovely and awaiting canonisation? Do we just exclude those women from all spaces to ensure that those men have their preferred happy choice?

I saw a reel on FB a couple of days ago with a TiM saying he'd be terrified to go in the men's toilets in a dress. Well, we're still waiting for the reports of TiMs being attacked by men (unlike the reports of women being attacked by TiMs, which already exist), but that aside, the answer is very simple. If you are genuinely terrified to go in the men's in a dress, don't wear the bloody dress! A dress doesn't make you a woman, and vice versa - not wearing a dress doesn't stop you being a woman. If you really believe you are a woman, you don't need the dress, or the makeup, or the heels.

As you've already mentioned Top Trumps on this thread.... a game of Trump Top Trumps, with each card representing his policies and general ramblings/actions, would be an AMAZING way to help with this ranking question..... I appreciate I've flipped round your question about approving genital surgery into preventing it.

First it needs some categories, so I'll have a go.

Card:
Drink bleach to prevent covid

Categories and scores:
Frequency - 1
Stupidity - 10
Danger - 10
Revoltingness - 0
Positive outcome potential - 0

Card:
Stop state funding for genital and plastic surgery on trans IDd male prisoners in female prisons

Categories and scores:
Frequency - 10 (those campaign ads)
Stupidity - 0
Danger - 0
Revoltingness - 0
Positive outcome potential - 8 (more to be done... but stopping the funding is a good start point)

And another card, just because...

Card:
Grab 'em by the pussy

Categories and scores:
Frequency - 10
Stupidity - 10
Danger - 8 (one of many dangers women navigate with men like this, but not the most dangerous)
Revoltingness - 10
Positive outcome potential - 0 (depends on your viewpoint 🤢 but I'll go with the women's here, not his)

Edited for clarity. Also now wondering if I should patent this.... 😂🤔

Well, to muddy the waters, I'm not a Reform voter, but I'm open to voting for them.
Whatever you think of Farage, his pitch has been consistent, while every party pitched to agree with him ("I promise to cut migration to the tens of thousands" Cameron/May, "I will smash the gangs, absolutely follow the law to protect women's safe spaces" Starmer), they've all done the opposite, thumbing their noses at the electorate.
Farage didn't arise in a vacuum, and Putin certainly didn't create him.
He's a pure reaction to the political classes of both parties that heard the public's genuine reservations on legal migration levels, antagonism to illegal migration, aversion to trans ideology infecting public policy and language.

Farage didn't arise in a vacuum, and Putin certainly didn't create him.
He's a pure reaction to the political classes of both parties that heard the public's genuine reservations on legal migration levels, antagonism to illegal migration, aversion to trans ideology infecting public policy and language.

I agree. I wouldn't vote for Reform, but I understand why people do. They just got their first council seat in Scotland, to many people's surprise, but the big parties are just not listening and people are fed up.

I can see the review from The Donald himself
"This is the greatest Trump Top Trump game I'm aware of, a Xmas gift for your loved ones so much better than the Sleepy Joe Duvet Cover, Sheets & Pillowcases set".

Well, his tardiness on releasing the Epstein Files is testing MAGA support like nothing else.

I get what you’re saying @1984Now but I can’t get beyond my loathing of them all enough to vote for the least worst. I don’t even know how I’d rank them in those terms.

Your criticism of Labour is inaccurate

This is from Page 18 of the Labour manifesto

We will help more people to choose who runs their local areas and the country. For example, we will change unfair rules that make it harder for some people to vote. And we will give 16 and 17 year olds the right to vote.

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Labour-MANIFESTO-UK-2024.pdf

Starmer hasn't cancelled local elections. Some local authorities about to reorganise have decided that running an election for councillors who will only have a year in office before elections for the new council need to be run is a waste of time & money. Some local authorities have not postponed their elections but for councils running or postponing elections the decision has been for the local council not the PM.

Mainstream politicians and their apologists eft liberal in the mainstream media ecosphere (hallo The NewsAgents, The Rest Is Politics, Ian Dunt, Danny Finkelstein etc) really don't realize it's not 2005 anymore. Hell, it's like they're in a room, watching the 2012 London Olympics opening ceremony over and over again on a loop, saying in 2025 "THIS is the Britain I represent" and not realizing that they both abandoned this politics themselves, while berating other politicians for calling them out.

😂😂😂😂

Want to be my business partner? You can lead PR and marketing.

The problem is, we'd literally go insane formulating the game. Our consumption of alcohol would go through the roof (or is that floor?).
Can you imagine
"Boris Johnson wins the Red Wall in 2019 only to instigate the Boriswave"
"Starmer lives and breathes Rule Of Law but ignores a SC ruling"
You can only speculate what Farage might do to totally upend policies he's fought for over three decades?
I'm not sure there's enough drink in the world to survive creating this game.

I'm struggling to see the downside here 🍷😂

Weirdly, one thing I'm doing to keep myself sane (in what is in summary a very dystopian, unfun and becoming potentially even shittier experience than I've already had with my daughter's school), I'm reading novels which occupy that space. Currently nearing the end of Brave New World.

At least with this alternative plan, I could end up making a fortune, if I can maintain enough sobriety to get it done. Trump, Farage and Johnson could bask in the glory of knowing that they've contributed to turning liberal, BBC- and Guardian-reading (I now also read other sources having had my eyes prised open re their fuckwittery) me into a raging capitalist 💰💰💰💰

Edited for clarity

I knew she was a bad 'un when the first thing she did, before she even got her feet under the desk in being given the job, was scuppering the FE Free Speech act, one of the few things the Tories got right.
That was pure politics, the old politics of malice that the left are addicted to.
Katherine Birbalsingh's coruscating criticisms of her backed up my derp unease.
Her zealous hounding of private schools.
Her absolute antagonism to free schools.
Her playing both ends against the middle re SC ruling advice to try and get the Deputy Leader job
Now her obfuscation for 101 reasons in not rolling out govt advice from the SC ruling.
When people speak clearly, take them at their word.

Starmer is such a disappointment.

He's the UK's Prime Minister, early on in his term, with a very large majority. So why does he behave like a nervy first-time junior Minister, in an unpopular coalition with the Greens, facing an imminent election?

Please, please, let him get a backbone in 2026. Over Christmas he should watch the Elizabethan Blackadder series, and practice saying "Who's PM?" in the mirror. He has the power to figuratively behead useless ministers and banish disloyal backbenchers. He can literally instigate the radical rewriting of UK laws and hire/fire his Cabinet at will.

My three New Year wishes for him:

• Read the 'Courage to be Disliked' by Ichiro Kishimi, then embolden by this:
• Sack Bridget Phillipson. Her flouting of the Rule of Law principle is unforgivable
• Task Rachel Reeves with developing a Budget for Growth. Include scrapping the pension triple lock and scrapping the scrapping of the 2-child benefit cap. Bring in a significant portfolio of policies (primarily business and education) for growth and hope

Currently there is no reason to believe things will get better in the UK. And many, many reasons to think we are in a spiral of decay and despair.

Starmer is the best placed of anyone to change this.

Starmer hasn't cancelled local elections. Some local authorities about to reorganise have decided that running an election for councillors who will only have a year in office before elections for the new council need to be run is a waste of time & money.

Thats what was said last year, too.

Labour forced the reorganisation, than gave the LA permission to cancel elections while they implement the reorganisation that the public didnt want. Two years in a row.

These councillors were voted in for 4 years and potential will be in power for 6.

People talk about balancing of rights in the Equality Act, but it appears that some PC are more important than others. To such an extent that the purpose of single sex spaces has to be disregarded.

Some women do not want to risk being in a toilet or changing room with men so will self exclude. Its madness that women will self exclude from single sex spaces because of the risk of men being present. Yet the government doesnt see it that way.

Also, large parts of the Labour top brass have convinced themselves that they're in an existential struggle to save the country from "the far right". Now to me, Nigel Farage has his faults, but you'd have to be mad to think he's Mussolini. But this is how they're thinking.

Starmer gave it away in his recent interview with the Economist where he said he didn't lose any sleep over the prospect of a conservative government (read: a good chaps Tory government of the Cameron or May variety that wouldn't change much) but he couldn't stand for a right wing government (read: a government led by Reform or a radical-thinking Tory party, or a coalition of both, that would change significant bits of the Blairite settlement)

So here are a few straws in the wind:

• Cancelling Postponing local elections for the second year running, entirely coincidentally in areas where Reform are likely to do well;
• David Lammy trying to restrict jury trial for all but the most serious offences, which, entirely coincidentally, would mean speech offences would be heard by a judge alone;
• The push from Labour MPs to make candidates for Parliament subject to enhanced DBS checks, which would uncover not only criminal convictions but also recorded non-crime hate incidents;
• Ofcom, with its mandate massively expanded by the Online Safety Act, testing its ability to regulate speech on the internet;
• The government reducing lobby briefings at which journalists can ask whatever questions they like, in favour of press conferences with curated questions;
• Hope Not Hate, the semi-official body monitoring "extremism", with close links to both the Labour Party and state agencies, expanding its remit waaay beyond rump neo-nazi groups to take in not only Reform but also Tory MPs who are insufficiently "good chap" in their outlook.

Any one of these might not be very important on its own, but if they're all happening at once, it's a bit concerning.

I have many issues with both of the centre-right parties, but I don't fear them implementing fascism should they win the next election. Mostly they want to get the government off people's backs.

But there's a non-trivial chance of Labour, having convinced themselves the country is about to go fascist - and also fearing that the current clownshow might be the last Labour government for a very long time - clamping down on democracy in the name of saving democracy.

Bridget Phillipson being a blatant scofflaw, and our Rule of Law PM tolerating or maybe encouraging her, is part of the same picture.

I don’t know if it’s possible to see how many times Judges use this in sentencing. It is a Sexual Harm Prevention Order and they have different conditions. I haven’t compiled a list but it’s usually women’s toilets though as I said unisex has appeared as well. It does appear a bit random - 10 years, another 15 and one was for life.
Obviously the title of the order gives a clue why men shouldn’t be in women’s toilets.
There’s changing rooms ones too.

David Lammy trying to restrict jury trial for all but the most serious offences, which, entirely coincidentally, would mean speech offences would be heard by a judge alone

Given the Sandie Peggie judgment my faith in judges have been drastically reduced.

Re: restriction of jury trials, they aren't even trying to provide an explanation of why this would be a good thing - just 'There is no money so you can't have them'.

Elections have been postponed previously in the same situation when councils are being merged into a unitary authority.. It's perfectly normal & is a choice of the particular local council. Some have decided to run elections & others have decided to save money..

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