Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

I didn't vote Labour.

There is no one to vote for on the left if you are a sex realist, unless your local MP is sound (I know …). I worry that the so-called progressive parties will make an anti-Reform pact, with the condition from the LDs and the Greens that sex is replaced with gender in the Equality Act.

I'm sure this has been already said, but I suspect Labour will be saying, of course we aren't ignoring the Supreme Court ruling.

Of course we support "safe spaces" for women. (Safe Spaces being Labour's way of getting round saying single sex spaces / services.)

But the problem is that naughty Baroness Falkner who was more trouble than she was worth, just went over the top. And we look forward to working with MAS (even though the WEC didn't want her) to create a much better set of guidelines that will be "inclusive" just as the EHRC is meant to be.

Nice women of course want to be kind. And so does Labour.

😉

Im almost certain that if Labour need propping up by the Greens or Lib dems this is exactly what will happen.

Here you go

I've done this a couple of times - I went for "Adult Human Female". Some people say we should vote for the least worst option, but women's rights are a line in the sand for me and I refuse to vote for parties or candidates that don't know the difference between men and women.

"Minister for Women and Equalities" my arse.

In that case I think the Greens and Lib Dems will be pushing at an open door. Labour don't need coalition partners to force them to do something they want to do anyway. Mostly they'll be a weapon to wield against the minority of sensible Labour MPs.

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the only way to deal with Labour is to punish them the same way the Conservatives were punished last year.

Only no half measures this time. ZERO SEATS.

What comes after the Uniparty will have all kinds of problems of its own, but wouldn't dare be so openly scornful of the electorate.

Phillipson trying to rewrite Supreme Court ruling, claims judge

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/b0e92a1e34601e08

This could be Starmer panicking over leadership and throwing a bone to the left to try and ward that off.

The electorate doesn’t feature anymore. It’s just Labour trying to survive.

OldCrone · Today 08:14

A Government spokesman insisted Ms Phillipson was not blocking the guidance but simply wanted to make sure the “incredibly complicated” issues were legally watertight.

Watertight, aye? Seams all caulked, the planks won't let the briny in. What's that you're doing with the brace and bit, Bridge? Why have you got the pointy metal bit turning against the keel there?

Which Justice Swift is it and would I be able to send him my data?

Stand aside, Phillipson. The law is clear

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/b0afb2d0a80a7a41

Well I don’t expect anyone to agree with me 😁but I will vote Conservative if Kemi Badenoch is still leader.

I’ve been watching her like a hawk. I like that she has always been completely and unconditionally clear in her condemnation of gender ideology, that Sharron Davies spoke of how supportive she was to her privately. I respect that she became leader when the party were shambolic and nearly bankrupt and has turned that around to the point of buying a new hq building. I like Claire Coutinho, Rebecca Paul and Laura Trott. And much more but I won’t bore on.

Above all though I’m heartsick at what women are being put through: the time, energy, money, court cases, humiliation. It needs to end. All of it.

Yes, that is probably where I am headed too. Badenoch has been very firm in her GC views from way back. If my DH lied to me and gaslit me like Labour have been doing, I would leave him.

Cheer me up, why don't you; that hadn't occurred to me! 😛

A pregnant woman can use the men’s because of a queue but a transwoman can’t use the men’s because they feel unsafe? Not sure I’m following the argument here!

You equate men 'feeling unsafe' in the men's toilet to (the absolutely unlikely, but actually defensible) pregnant woman desperate for a pee dashing into the men's?

If you're not following the argument that men who want to be in the ladies have very different intentions to pregnant women who need to have a slash, then you need to think harder. Really, loads harder.

Anyway. Just because a man feels unsafe in the men's does not mean they get to go in the women's toilet! If you want to campaign against pregnant women who (allegedly) are not let go to the front of the queue by other women and are so forced into the men's 🙄 please carry on.

I find this whole thing incredibly amazing because men seem to be able to pee bloody everywhere until they wear a skirt, which one would think would make things easier.🤔 Maybe it's the fishnets...

Read it again, paying particular attention to which loo the TW "can't use".

No I’m not saying that at all. If Philipson is suggesting that a pregnant woman may on occasion need to use the men’s loos then you can’t use the same argument that a TW would be unsafe. Either both are unsafe or neither.

Just listened to HelenJ, she's actually too kind when she politely suggests unhappy backbenchers as a reason for the Govt's weakness. If only it was a few recalcitrant back-benchers who could be knocked into line. In fact, they are right there in the Cabinet.

I like Claire Coutinho, Rebecca Paul and Laura Trott.

Has Laura Trott said or done much? As Shadow Education Secretary she's perfectly placed to be calling out every way in which Phillipson is failing vulnerable children in schools with her obfuscation and delay. Also that schools are the funnel into the puberty blocker trial and the gender clinic pipeline. But I don't recall her talking about any of this. I would love to be wrong on that.

Edited due to an accidental "misgendering" of Bridget P. I called her "it" 🤦‍♀️ Despite how inhuman she appears to be with her prioritisation of career over the safety of vulnerable children and all women and girls, she doesn't quite deserve that level of dehumanisation.

It's awful. I'm politically homeless.

I just dont understand the pregnant woman thing The law doesn’t police the users, it polices the services/facilities provided.

Is she seriously saying that in order to ‘allow’ pregnant women to use the men’s, toilets should say ‘for men and pregnant women’ and this would be allowable? Because this is nonsense. The sign needs to say ‘men’.
If a pregnant woman needs to use the toilet so desperately, she isnt likely to ask permission beforehand, so the employer isn’t involved. They aren’t allowing it and nor should they.

If a pregnant woman uses the men’s so frequently it is a problem, then in an employment situation she needs a reasonable adjustment (which should be being situated closer to the female facility).

This is a good point