allison bailey judgement

[thelonelyones]

expected tomorrow

(can't share how I know, and sorry don't know if there's already a thread)

That's my understanding.

... but as I said, four-year-old

Also with a 4 year old understanding - if she’s successful and it’s an appeal court finding, would this be binding in a way that the EAT wouldn’t have been? Likewise if she’s unsuccessful and chooses not to take it further and appeal again?

The basic rule of precedence is that a judgment of a higher court binds all lower courts as to matters of law unless the case is distinguishable on its facts.
So
ET binds no tribunal
EAT binds ET
CofA binds all courts below it so ET, EAT, High Court etc

My quote of the day on x about Allison's case.

Very good

Ages ago, just after the first judgement I was talking to a lawyer working in this area who was pretty downbeat about Allison’s chance of winning her appeal. That said it would be a hell of a win if she did. Presumably (IANAL) forcing Stonewall to take some responsibility for their dodgy advice.

I would love to know the justification.

Stonewall were clearly applying pressure on Garden Court in order, they hoped, to get GC to illegally discriminate. It is completely open and shut in AB's favour from my viewpoint (but IANAL, and have not followed this appeal as closely as I did the first case).

I get the impression that this is really a very general case about what "causing or inducing" means. They will want to be very careful about the implications of decisions about that, even if the fact that this ended up in front of the court is really just because sex realist views have been so socially unacceptable. I wouldn't be sanguine. It's super interesting though.

I did wonder at the time whether the ET didn’t find against Stonewall because having seen the emotional support mum, lawyer, dog etc etc the Stonewall rep needed they figured she couldn’t influence her way out of a paper bag. Shorn of the personalities and sticking to the facts might help us here.

I wonder if someone could have influenced an employer in the same way about say Gaza. It will be a very interesting decision.

Nearly spat my drink at that.

🥃 here you go WFTCHTJ. Can’t be doing without a wee dram or two.

Interesting point!

If so it's dangerously blinkered judicial thinking as this is example A of Stonewall's emotionally manipulative modus operandi.

That would open a whole new can of worms. 🤔

The Allison Bailey thread containing the posts about the appeal is here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5429365-allison-bailey-v-stonewall

You may want to respond to the judgment there.

It was all very shocking. All very Wizard of Oz, wasn't it?

Stonewall appearing like this menacing, intimidating, dense monolith of a organisation. Able to wield power in the highest circles, coming and going, unseen and shadowy, like Machiavellian ninjas.

Nah. .

Incoherent lip biting twits, holding mums hand, with animals for support and lawyers hovering over their every utterance, lest they drop everyone in it.

I can remember at the time thinking Allison's case against Stonewall was a difficult one but things have changed in the intervening years. At the time Stonewall had so much influence that companies were running scared. How does that kind of influence carry weight? All the same, Fingers crossed

Anyone seen any news on this? I followed the link helpfully posted upthread but it said the link had expired...? I've been trying to Google but drawing a blank.

Also thank you to whoever corrected me re Court of Appeal - you're quite right, of course! Too many tribunals/courts/cases floating around in my head right now.

She lost. But says aspects of the judgment are concerning...

Allison lost.

Oh bollocks. Just seen that she's lost. Supreme Court it is, then, I hope...

Allison Bailey

@BluskyeAllison

I am sorry to announce that I have lost my appeal against Stonewall in the Court of Appeal. Judgment was handed down this morning (18 December 2025). A link to the judgment will be posted shortly.

Certain aspects of the judgment and its reasoning are surprising and very concerning. I will need to review it in detail with my legal team before saying more. I intend to share an update, including next steps, after the Christmas break.

In the meantime, please don’t lose heart. I certainly haven’t. I remain profoundly grateful for the support, kindness, and encouragement so many of you have shown me over the past six years in my pursuit of justice.

https://allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Bailey-v-Stonewall-Judgment-Published.pdf