Allison Bailey v Stonewall

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https://x.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1979480101474443398?t=Sg3wz-Pq2S7lpQ2rTpJZ2g&s=19

A busy week....

Good to see this. She's such a courageous woman - wishing her vevery success. Long overdue for organisations like Stonewall to be held to account for the harm they've done to so many individuals and organisations in the interests of promoting the anti social, anti democratic gender identity ideology.

You beat me to it. I was just going to set up a thread.
This will be interesting but the evidence will be very legal based as it’s a question of interpreting the law rather than submitting more evidence.

I'm clearly not going to get much work done next week!!

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It is a super busy week! I hope TT are limbering up.

How am I going to get anything done next week??

Looking forward to this.

Confirmation of Harassed point

Right when I'm in the middle of life stuff! Just based on memory I don't really have an inkling on which way this will go as it's not as clear cut (to me) as SW wasn't her employer and I'm not sure of the threshold for liability. I wonder who SW will bring?

Nice to have a recording for once - much easier than trying to fit life around the trial, and means it's possible to go back and re-check if you're not sure you've heard something correctly.

'6 years and it's not over yet' , unbelievable, I know they keep saying the process is the punishment, but it really is, I'm grateful to her for fighting back, I hope she wins.

Really hope she wins, I'd like to think the law is not a total ass and there was still some justice in the world.

I gather (just through X), it relates to this.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/111

Absolutely. The courage and tenacity Alison and others who have sought justice makes me feel very humble and glad I’ve been able to plant seeds in their gardens.

Basically it is a breach of Section 111 of the Equality Act 2010 to incite anyone to breach the Equality Act 2010.

Thanks op. I'll watch the thread in the hope that someone comments a basic level for dummies interpretation of what happens.

I've followed Alison's case all along and really hope this works for her.

I’ve got a bad feeling about this one.

Stonewall always manage to wriggle off the hook, somehow.

I’m not so sure. The fact she has been given leave to appeal means that it’s been decided that her case merits review.

My understanding is that is not a simple/easy threshold to pass - you can’t just say “I want to appeal” and the answer is “sure, if you can pony up the money”.

That is my understanding.

I read section 111 and I think they definitely did that, of course they did!

(IANAL. Obviously. 😂)

Yes, and there was clearly a detriment caused to Allison - reputational, career-wise, financial and social - which was foreseeable and intentional.

So much so that I don’t understand how Stonewall walked away from this previously tbh.

Goodness knows she deserves to win this. Fingers crossed for a sensible judge.

The whole performance with Stonewall's witness and his dog / mum / support person was a turning point for the organisation I think. It was a bit like the wizard of Oz. All of a sudden Stonewall wasn't this polished, professional, well-trained, reliable source of legal knowledge. Just the most underwhelming bunch of inarticulate, mean-spirited keyboard warriors, terrified of being called out on their actions.

The damage to Stonewall's reputation was done, and things aren't going well for them right now. I do think Alison is raising valid points that need to be flushed out in court. Whether that translates into something punishable by law remains to be seen.

Slightly off piste, but Tanya De Grunwald attended the Stonewall conference a few months back for her podcast series, This Isn't Working. Very interesting to listen to as it paints a picture of how dysfunctional the organisation is.