Sex Matters - Hampstead Heath Ponds -

[SexRealismBeliefs]

Sex Matters, a charity that campaigns for single-sex rights, will argue that the City of London Corporation is breaching equality law by allowing trans women to use Kenwood Ladies’ Pond on Hampstead Heath.

Hearing this Wednesday.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/cceca8ca-4167-4b04-875a-40ddacfea782?shareToken=e9fe25a546d20835f1a5a66564cbf27b

Well whatever the GLP is, it isn't a charity.

Goof analysis by Michael Foran

https://knowingius.org/p/sex-matters-v-city-of-london-round?utm_medium=email&action=restack-comment&triedRedirect=true

Is it wrong to cheer and laugh lustily at Jolly Old Mawks, who's doubtless having conniptions at being excluded?

I don't believe so. In fact, I'll join you.

But he'll always have WEMBLEY.

And his dancing 😆

Charity allowed to continue legal challenge over trans people being allowed to use Hampstead Heath women-only bathing ponds | Daily Mail Online

Hampstead ponds trans access legal appeal allowed - BBC News

🎶'JoMo's gone to Wembley
His knees have gone all trembly'🎶

Borrowed from an old football chant, which bizarrely borrowed the rhyme from Betjeman:
Harrow-on-the-Hill by John Betjeman
When melancholy Autumn comes to Wembley
And electric trains are lighted after tea
The poplars near the stadium are trembly
With their tap and tap and whispering to me,
Like the sound of little breakers
Spreading out along the surf-line
When the estuary's filling
With the sea.

This is a derail, I admit, but a derail with electric trains😄

BBC reporting women's issues incorrectly, as usual 🙄

Its not about trans, no one cares how you identify, just use the correct bloody facility for your sex you dumbarses

I saw this announcement from Sex Matters earlier today vai a facebook post and was really happy
https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/hampstead-ponds-judicial-review-going-ahead/

But I did have this after thought.

Has any one added up, or kept a running total of just how much money has been spent on legal costs on cases like this about asserting women's sex based rights.

Obviously great that money have been raised.

But wouldn't it have been great if this money could have been used by women's groups etc., to do something pro-active, rather than having to endlessly re-fight the same issue.

That's the other part of men controlling women's lives. Forcing them to take defensive or evasive actions to mitigate male arrogance about their rights being primary.

Agree about the cost of such legal action and what it could be put to. Hope the legal challenge succeeds, and if it means the mixed bathing ponds being open all year, good.

I stand by my opinion that the previous government should have acted perhaps ten years ago in saying sex means biology and then I doubt very much it would ever have come to this.

I agree, it's infuriating @IwantToRetire all the money spent by both sides that could have been used for something useful rather than fighting to prove what should be obvious.

Its that whole thing about male dominance.

Men create the problem.

Women are left to tidy up the mess they have created.

And then they do it again because its really great for them to think they can get women to use up their time tidying up after men rather than being proactive on their own behalf.

@MarieDeGournay you quoted Ozzie’s Dream, a Spurs anthem. John Betjeman was from Highgate so possibly a spurs supporter too!

Just been reported on the BBC evening news

You'd think City of London would welcome the chance to put their arguments and shut the damn wimmin up for once and for all. They are very convinced of their own legality, so it should be a cakewalk for them to convince the judge on its merits too.

Right?

Maybe the definitive guidelines will be out before the court case......

But the law is the law as it stands now, however as we all know there is a lot of hiding behind the wait for Bridget to lay the golden egg in front of Parliament.

They will no doubt be relying heavily on their 'survey' that showed 90% of biological women would happily be naked in a shower with a transwoman or some other such nonsense. I hope Sex Matters council are prepared to dismantle the methodolgy of the so called survey. However, this is entirely irrelevant, you can't opt out of the law with a vote.

I note that the beeb’s reporting uncritically spews out the ‘results’ of a poll that even the City of London have had to acknowledge was hijacked.

Over 20,000 ‘recent’ users of the ponds?! When the session capacity is a max of 100?

I suspect many of the respondents wouldn’t be able to locate Hampstead Heath on a map, let alone have swum there.

They already have (dismantled it).

It’s outrageous that the BBC quotes such an obvious pile of rigged crap.
Every TRA will have said they are a regular user and live locally to increase their weighting.

You are right and in some ways it’s heartbreaking to think of the things women could have done were they not forced to define and defend themselves like this.

But I also hope a lot of good will come from this. Every court case that gets fought on these terms seems to operate like part of a ‘women’s bill of rights’, defining why we are both equal to men but also have different needs due to our biology. Society’s wilful misunderstanding of this stems from centuries of oppression and hopefully each little win pushes back on that a little. Hope so, anyway!

I saw a list on X recently and the total spent on court cases was over £4 million!

I’ll post if I can find it again.

it’s woken a lot of us up like cold water being poured on us from the dream that the post ww2 era of women’s rights have all been sorted out by the legal strides ahead of the previous generations in the 60s -90s and so now women can just get on with it, for sure.