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Robin Ince quits working for the BBC over his support for men in dresses and terrorists

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 13/12/2025 09:29

Shame really he’s a nice guy, a huge bibliophile, met him a few times at book signings, the last live show of his I saw he did shoehorn in “and of course trans women are real women” or some such nonsense.

guessing the infinite monkey cage is cancelled now, that was in my top five podcasts.

can’t do a popular science show and think women can have a penis though. Wonder what Brian thinks?

the video of his love resignation , presumably at the end of a monkey cage recording, is here
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1plg02g/bbc_presenter_robert_ince_claims_he_has_been/

notably he doesn’t say how men in dresses are being treated badly. Everyone has a blind spot.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/12/2025 13:22

sandgreen · 14/12/2025 12:42

Mark Steel also went on Triggernometry this year so I like to think he’s at least got an open mind about speaking to people on the other side of his politics.

Yes I listened to Jimmy on there too Craftandglamour, not only is he well-read and curious but I liked his attitude to comedy - just wanting to give the paying audience a break from reality and solid laughs. No longer an issue that bothers Robin Ince, obv.

Oh my word he did I didn’t know I will watch this

mind you TG has become a lot more popular and strident wonder if they pressed him. He does support the greens

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WarriorN · 14/12/2025 13:30

HoppityBun · 14/12/2025 13:04

That’s a very interesting point, because Nick Wallis, who investigated the Post Office scandal for years says that this gender ideology business is a scandal of equal proportions. Given how Private Eye commendably reported on the Post Office scandal for years, it will be interesting to see how that pans out.

I do like Andrew Hunter Murray and I’m really disappointed with Provate Eye about their unthinking approach to trans ideology and sex realism.

yes - he’s likened it to the post office scandal and the blood donor scandal combined (iirc.)

SionnachRuadh · 14/12/2025 13:35

NGL, when Mark left the SWP and even for years afterwards I felt he pulled his punches. Nor has he ever been particularly interested in talking to those of us who saw through them before he did. He's a good example of the Leninist who feels the party started to degenerate at exactly the same time he started feeling uncomfortable in it, and not a moment before. I think he's very invested in seeing himself as a good person, and might find it distressing to reflect on all the things he turned a blind eye to in his 30-plus years in the party.

I give him credit for realising that he had got to the age of 50 and there had to be more to life than brown-nosing the likes of Alex Callinicos.

I deduct a little credit for him puffing up Eddie Izzard's trans identity, but I suppose Eddie is a mate.

CraftandGlamour · 14/12/2025 14:44

SionnachRuadh · 14/12/2025 12:33

I mean the thing about Robin Ince is that he's a moderately talented performer who's had a very long career that owes a lot to him being friends with people who are more talented.

There's nothing wrong with that. In a who you know business, you use your connections to get ahead. There are writers on the Guardian who got there on the back of being friends with Nick Cohen, and they've been there so long everyone probably assumes they got there on merit.

In show business, moderately talented plus influential friends beats very talented and no insider connections.

But the sheer pomposity of Ince, who seems to have convinced himself that he's a national treasure, is much funnier than any time he's tried to do comedy on purpose.

A thousand percent this.

I'm glad I'm not up close to see what's happened to comedy. So many comics known to 'tell it like it is', have turned out to be a disappointment and, in some cases, utterly craven.

It's really sad to see the vibrant sub culture that spawned some of the most creative and subversive stand up and character comedy in the world brought to its knees by lockstep identitarianism and establishment group think. This is not an environment that will nurture the next Boosh, Garth Merenghi, We Are Klang - or Linehan - to name a few.

SionnachRuadh · 14/12/2025 18:03

Seems plausible.

Ince mostly gets gigs based on who he's friends with, so if the friendship breaks down...

...you could replace him with Marcus Brigstocke and nobody will know the difference. (They probably will; I think it's written into the BBC charter that they have an obligation to keep Brigstocke employed no matter how few people tune in)

Talkinpeace · 14/12/2025 18:36

Unfunny science denier gets dropped from comedy slot on science show

GallantKumquat · 14/12/2025 18:52

NebulousSadTimes · 14/12/2025 17:56

Acts like a git towards women ✔️
Believes men can become women ✔️
Plays the victim when called out ✔️

😂🤣

Beerlzebub · 14/12/2025 19:37

It's going to be amusing watching a few of them quiely delete tweets and Bluesky posts when the truth starts to come out, that Ince is not the innocent martyr he seems to be...

Still, got to hand it to him for totally setting the agenda of his defenstration...

HildegardP · 14/12/2025 21:22

HoppityBun · 14/12/2025 13:04

That’s a very interesting point, because Nick Wallis, who investigated the Post Office scandal for years says that this gender ideology business is a scandal of equal proportions. Given how Private Eye commendably reported on the Post Office scandal for years, it will be interesting to see how that pans out.

I do like Andrew Hunter Murray and I’m really disappointed with Provate Eye about their unthinking approach to trans ideology and sex realism.

I can't see Evartip Yee improving unless Adam McQueen suddenly has a fit of humility & puts his estimable journalistic talent to work on the subject.

HildegardP · 14/12/2025 21:30

SionnachRuadh · 14/12/2025 13:35

NGL, when Mark left the SWP and even for years afterwards I felt he pulled his punches. Nor has he ever been particularly interested in talking to those of us who saw through them before he did. He's a good example of the Leninist who feels the party started to degenerate at exactly the same time he started feeling uncomfortable in it, and not a moment before. I think he's very invested in seeing himself as a good person, and might find it distressing to reflect on all the things he turned a blind eye to in his 30-plus years in the party.

I give him credit for realising that he had got to the age of 50 and there had to be more to life than brown-nosing the likes of Alex Callinicos.

I deduct a little credit for him puffing up Eddie Izzard's trans identity, but I suppose Eddie is a mate.

Was he ever actually a member? I always thought he was more in the "fellow traveller" category, y'know, willing to do the odd benefit gig, maybe show up to the annual bunfight & do a turn, but not a card-carrying Comrade.

dinodart · 14/12/2025 23:58

Does Ince have a family member or a friend who identifies as trans? That usually seems to be key in making people extra fanatic about it...

SionnachRuadh · 15/12/2025 00:46

HildegardP · 14/12/2025 21:30

Was he ever actually a member? I always thought he was more in the "fellow traveller" category, y'know, willing to do the odd benefit gig, maybe show up to the annual bunfight & do a turn, but not a card-carrying Comrade.

He was a very active member. He sometimes jokes that when he joined at 18 he was five years younger than the average member, and when he left at 50 he was still five years younger than the average member.

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 07:04

It would seem his claims that he left the BbC as some heroic and brave stand are contested: x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/2000249350640001212?s=61&t=Og74NL350OdVbEJ3Se9_Iw

NotBadConsidering · 15/12/2025 08:36

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 07:04

It would seem his claims that he left the BbC as some heroic and brave stand are contested: x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/2000249350640001212?s=61&t=Og74NL350OdVbEJ3Se9_Iw

following unacceptable behaviour to several colleagues, particularly a woman who worked there

This is my shocked face 😶

BlueEyedBogWitch · 15/12/2025 08:38

Well, that’s made my Christmas!

Shortshriftandlethal · 15/12/2025 08:46

RoyalCorgi · 14/12/2025 11:56

It seems incredibly unlikely to be the trans issue, as the BBC is absolutely riddled with trans activists, and its news reporting has for several years been very obviously skewed towards pushing a trans activist perspective.

Maybe it is a situation similar to that of Gary Lineker, who was very vocal about any number of issues on his personal twitter thread?

Abhannmor · 15/12/2025 09:42

SionnachRuadh · 15/12/2025 00:46

He was a very active member. He sometimes jokes that when he joined at 18 he was five years younger than the average member, and when he left at 50 he was still five years younger than the average member.

I had a friend who was a very active member in the 80s. He used to complain that the journalist, Paul Foot , was ' a very bad member , he never comes to meetings '. Perhaps Mark is a bit like that.
My old friend was a real true believer. We lost touch ages ago but I saw a quote from him in the Guardian, I think , around the time the scandal broke. I'd imagine he was devastated. It is a terrible betrayal really. But it must be worse for the old RCP footsoldiers you'd see at every event flogging The Next Step. Their alumni are mostly in the Tory party, Reform or the House of Lords now. I can't see Mark Steel extolling the benefits of Christian nationalism anytime soon. But we do live in strange times.

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 09:55

He used to complain that the journalist, Paul Foot , was ' a very bad member , he never comes to meetings'

It's like a religion where your holiness is rated on what you're seen to be doing than what you're actually doing Hmm

EweProfessorSurnameDoctorProfessor · 15/12/2025 09:57

From the other side, hypothetically would this be like Justin Webb being reprimanded and fired for posting lots of TWANW type content? I don't think he does, but if he did, could he also be pulled up on it?

Beerlzebub · 15/12/2025 12:46

EweProfessorSurnameDoctorProfessor · 15/12/2025 09:57

From the other side, hypothetically would this be like Justin Webb being reprimanded and fired for posting lots of TWANW type content? I don't think he does, but if he did, could he also be pulled up on it?

I really, really doubt that it was Ince's TWAW belief or tweets that the little chat that lead him to flounce off resign was about.

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 13:37

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate his towering poetic abilities?

Robin Ince quits working for the BBC over his support for men in dresses and terrorists
DialSquare · 15/12/2025 13:41

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 13:37

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate his towering poetic abilities?

I think I just cringed myself inside out.

DamnTheCheesemongers · 15/12/2025 13:48

SidewaysOtter · 15/12/2025 13:37

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate his towering poetic abilities?

#drivel

SisterTeatime · 15/12/2025 14:07

My eyes!

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