Robin Ince quits working for the BBC over his support for men in dresses and terrorists

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Shame really he’s a nice guy, a huge bibliophile, met him a few times at book signings, the last live show of his I saw he did shoehorn in “and of course trans women are real women” or some such nonsense.

guessing the infinite monkey cage is cancelled now, that was in my top five podcasts.

can’t do a popular science show and think women can have a penis though. Wonder what Brian thinks?

the video of his love resignation , presumably at the end of a monkey cage recording, is here
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1plg02g/bbc_presenter_robert_ince_claims_he_has_been/

notably he doesn’t say how men in dresses are being treated badly. Everyone has a blind spot.

My money is on the support for the hunger strikers.

interesting!

"I don’t like Jimmy Carr’s act but find him a far more intelligent and considered comedy professional these days. Never thought this is where I’d be."

Same, @sandgreen - I was really impressed by Jimmy's thoughtfulness in a recent Trigg interview.

He says it's also about 'other things' and then mentions prisoners on hunger strike.

I am cringing myself inside out watching his speech.

I wonder if it’s a “recollections may vary” situation.

I have a friend like this. Straight white married cis male who insists on leaping on every leftist bandwagon going.

I remember having a similar reaction to Bob Monkhouse when he did In The Psychiatrists Chair, not mad about his act but he was a really interesting and thoughtful man.

I can't quite work out why I am on this thread, it might have something to do with how supposedly grown men frame their flounces...

Just watched that video of his speech. Sweet Jesus. He's written a poem people, be warned!

What a pompous twit 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

OMG the comments!

Makes me furious that all these "kind", "inclusive" folk think that they are justified in calling people bigoted just because they don't believe a woman can have a penis.

Mark Steel said something similar about Bob Monkhouse, who he got to know towards the end of Bob's life. From memory, Bob approached him and said how much he'd enjoyed Mark's book on the French Revolution, which he'd been recommended by Jeremy Beadle.

Mark was always very much a political omnicause comedian and didn't really mix outside of those circles, but as he got older he made some friends who weren't comrades, and many of his comrades turned out not to be his friends.

I haven't seen Mark in a very long time. I don't know if he's become more thoughtful. I hope so.

Yes - Clive Anderson and Loose Ends, anyone?

I mean the thing about Robin Ince is that he's a moderately talented performer who's had a very long career that owes a lot to him being friends with people who are more talented.

There's nothing wrong with that. In a who you know business, you use your connections to get ahead. There are writers on the Guardian who got there on the back of being friends with Nick Cohen, and they've been there so long everyone probably assumes they got there on merit.

In show business, moderately talented plus influential friends beats very talented and no insider connections.

But the sheer pomposity of Ince, who seems to have convinced himself that he's a national treasure, is much funnier than any time he's tried to do comedy on purpose.

lol, it was TL:DR for me 🤣

thanks for getting through it and setting the record straight!

My brain is on 5% this morning, apologies in advance for wonky replies

Oh no!
Not more bad poetry!😩

Mark Steel also went on Triggernometry this year so I like to think he’s at least got an open mind about speaking to people on the other side of his politics.

Yes I listened to Jimmy on there too Craftandglamour, not only is he well-read and curious but I liked his attitude to comedy - just wanting to give the paying audience a break from reality and solid laughs. No longer an issue that bothers Robin Ince, obv.

OMG no.

although it was mentioned on the news, I couldn’t find any mention of this ‘story’ on the bbc news app. Less interesting than Charlotte Church not using deodorant.

Is it the terrible poem he wrote about Mama G, drag queen?

Shared this with dh today; he’s made some interesting points about AI

Which was repeatedly the conversation at an Xmas thing I went to last night

The Romantic Byronic Hero, rending his garments, roaming graveyards and searching his soul in anguish.
Task number 1; learn to write decent poetry* and have something interesting to say, otherwise go away and stop expecting people to hang on your emoting.

*applies to other art forms

Bloo- skidmark loves that sort of tripe

That’s a very interesting point, because Nick Wallis, who investigated the Post Office scandal for years says that this gender ideology business is a scandal of equal proportions. Given how Private Eye commendably reported on the Post Office scandal for years, it will be interesting to see how that pans out.

I do like Andrew Hunter Murray and I’m really disappointed with Provate Eye about their unthinking approach to trans ideology and sex realism.

Exam question:

On a scale of McGonagall to Vogon, how bad is Ince?

Please don't give examples.

Is this where you'd get full marks for answering "Shite"?