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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Biology (Bindel) vs Ideology (Webberley) on the Hodge-Cast

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GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 18:03

Anyone else watching?

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GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 18:08

Six minutes in and Webberley's already denying that women are an oppressed group 😭

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KafkasScooter · 20/11/2025 19:16

Yes, I'm watching. OMG Webberley is appalling.

KafkasScooter · 20/11/2025 19:17

Julie is amazing!

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 20:21

Bookmarking to watch when home!

Ddakji · 20/11/2025 20:23

I thought tonight was Helen J vs Webberley?

GreenFriedTomato · 20/11/2025 20:25

Ddakji · 20/11/2025 20:23

I thought tonight was Helen J vs Webberley?

It is. 9pm on Times Radio. It's a Webberley double bill tonight

MimiGC · 20/11/2025 20:26

Ddakji · 20/11/2025 20:23

I thought tonight was Helen J vs Webberley?

It is. At 9pm on Times Radio.

Signalbox · 20/11/2025 20:37

Right at the beginning Webberley says that gender identity is "an identity" and then 39 minutes in she says that "transgender isn't an identity". She can't even keep track of her own ramblings.

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 20:37

This is just mad.

She is like a bot.

"I do believe in single sex spaces....transwomen are women....sonthey can be in single sex spaces with women....because they are women...."

Spiracles · 20/11/2025 20:39

GreenFriedTomato · 20/11/2025 20:25

It is. 9pm on Times Radio. It's a Webberley double bill tonight

She's all they've got, isn't she? I don't believe the trans "Do not engage with the hostile media!" bollocks. They just lose every time. So now all they have is Webberly.

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 20:46

When you're reduced to arguing that actually there is no real reason to think women are the predominantly represented victims of rape....

ChamonixMountainBum · 20/11/2025 20:47

She should be in prison, absolute ghoul.

Catiette · 20/11/2025 20:53

I'm trying, but a few minutes in, am already struggling with Webberley. This infuriating need always, always to reduce a clear, nuanced argument to reductive extremes, because the reductive extremes are all she can argue against, she can't win if she acknowledges the nuance. It's exhausting to listen to, as instead of finding you're listening to interesting ideas and reflecting on them, you screaming the basics again and again, like, "She didn't say that!" or, "Stop strawmanning and address the issue!" and, often, "You don't bloody say!!!" as she relies on a safe generalisation that sidesteps the issue entirely.

"It's not just women who are victims of rape."
"We need places people can go to feel safe."

And then there's the sheer lunacy of her implicit arguments - the implication that as many men as women are raped, and as many women rape as men?! I mean, what?!

The quality of the arguments (and this is so clearly reflected in the style and confidence of delivery - we're already into rhetorical repetition and avoidance by Webberley) is just stratospherically different.

Catiette · 20/11/2025 20:57

All hail Julie for taking this on. I'll try to listen another time when I'm feeling more patient.

Signalbox · 20/11/2025 20:58

I can't understand why any parent would allow their child anywhere near Webberley. She's so clearly insane.

GreenFriedTomato · 20/11/2025 21:05

Spiracles · 20/11/2025 20:39

She's all they've got, isn't she? I don't believe the trans "Do not engage with the hostile media!" bollocks. They just lose every time. So now all they have is Webberly.

I've never seen any of her 'debates with other people', only tweets of hers.
I have some catching up to do. Julie Bindel, GB news. Oh I think I saw her briefly with piers Morgan once but she was backed up by other equally bonkers guests.
Oh looks like it's starting now. But no sound??

GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 21:30

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 20:37

This is just mad.

She is like a bot.

"I do believe in single sex spaces....transwomen are women....sonthey can be in single sex spaces with women....because they are women...."

Reminds me of that episode of Alan Partridge:

I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO

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ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 21:46

GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 21:30

Reminds me of that episode of Alan Partridge:

I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO I'M NOT DRIVING A MINI METRO

Haven't seen that one!

I had to stop watching as I couldn't cope.

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 22:42

I like the mash up Julie has shared on Twitter.

Helen getting doe eyed offending about TW being called men and insisting that this could be viewed as a Hate Crime.

All feels very pre SC ruling HW! Those days are GONE

Soontobe60 · 20/11/2025 23:03

I found it hilarious that she doesn’t recognise biology when it comes down to sex categories, but talked about the importance of using ‘biological terms’ when explaining what a child, adolescent and adult were.
HW is totally bonkers.

Howseitgoin · 20/11/2025 23:10

GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 18:03

Anyone else watching?

"Femininity is imposed on women"
-Bindel

Herein lies the whole 'problem'. Incorrectly perceiving femininity as only a societal imposition & not also a biological one prevents understanding of the legitimacy of trans women as women.

Howseitgoin · 20/11/2025 23:15

GCinAcademia · 20/11/2025 18:03

Anyone else watching?

I doubt very much doubt Bindel insisted she was a boy or that she had gender dysphoria. More likely she identified more with boy interests & expressions which is the difference between trans & 'tomboys'.

GrandmaMazur · 20/11/2025 23:18

Howseitgoin · 20/11/2025 23:10

"Femininity is imposed on women"
-Bindel

Herein lies the whole 'problem'. Incorrectly perceiving femininity as only a societal imposition & not also a biological one prevents understanding of the legitimacy of trans women as women.

Yer what?

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 23:18

Howseitgoin · 20/11/2025 23:10

"Femininity is imposed on women"
-Bindel

Herein lies the whole 'problem'. Incorrectly perceiving femininity as only a societal imposition & not also a biological one prevents understanding of the legitimacy of trans women as women.

I wish there was a laughing emoji.

The only problem that we need to discuss in this thread is how absolutely utterly and completely contradictorily batshit HW is.

You can't retrospectively try to pseudo intellectualise a discourse that was so dominated by her illogicality, conflicting and contrary nonsense.

Good try though (and am sure you'll now bore us all continuing to try)

Howseitgoin · 21/11/2025 01:22

ProfessorOfAllTheThings · 20/11/2025 23:18

I wish there was a laughing emoji.

The only problem that we need to discuss in this thread is how absolutely utterly and completely contradictorily batshit HW is.

You can't retrospectively try to pseudo intellectualise a discourse that was so dominated by her illogicality, conflicting and contrary nonsense.

Good try though (and am sure you'll now bore us all continuing to try)

Of course it appears as "illogicality, conflicting and contrary nonsense"….when your initial frame of reference is flawed. It's like communicating in two different languages which is my point.

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