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Sara Morrison v BFF thread 4

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MarieDeGournay · 17/11/2025 14:41

continuation

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/11/2025 11:25

Break. MD will take us to to lunch then K (Keira?) Patterson this afternoon.

ProfessorEmeritusVeraAtkins · 18/11/2025 11:25

NC is going to 'finish' MD by lunchtime - I'll say!

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:26

ProfessorDoctorJudgeOfSteel · 18/11/2025 11:24

Yes, that too! I’ve never used it before but I don’t seem to be very good at personal statements. I’ve had 2 interviews using AI for them and none without. I just need to learn how to talk like it in interviews. 😆

I tell it not to hallucinate and to be brutally honest to avoid the sycophancy.

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 18/11/2025 11:26

Aw, having to comply with legal obligations is just so upsetting for Michele!

Largesso · 18/11/2025 11:26

Cailleach1 · 18/11/2025 11:21

‘J: I think a lot of orgs would say the same. Not just yours’

What does Judge mean by that, I wonder? All orgs which end up in an ET ‘cos they are now having to defend their actions against an employee?

I read it as: everyone is busy so shut up with all the I’m special cos busy excuses.

CriticalCondition · 18/11/2025 11:26

J I think a lot of orgs would say the same. Not just yours

I read that slightly differently - more an impatient 'yes, stop with the wingeing can you, you're not the only busy person in the whole wide world'. Perhaps someone at the hearing can help clarify the judge's tone.

EmploymentJudgeSigourneyHoward · 18/11/2025 11:26

Did MD know that SM had told her solicitor that she didn't have her email password, otherwise why would MD think that Mr Chambers should notice the (unsent?) email in the SAR bundle and think - oh my, should tell Sara about her email password. As opposed to Mr Chambers just looking at the totality of the SAR bundle....

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:26

From NW

J we'll rise for a break and come back at 1134
[SD arguing about the 3 July being agreed as a subject matter - there is disagreement about what was agreed]
[we're on a break]

The 3 July email has become - as far as NC and her junior Dr Charlotte Elves - are concerned - central to the case. They tried on Day 1 to have it added to the list of issues, but SD resisted. The tribunal continued on the agreement that it could be addressed even if it...

... wasn't to be added to the list of issues and this headed off an application. SD, the J and NC's recollection of exactly HOW the issue could be addressed appears to be a bone of contention.

ProfessorBoiledbeetle · 18/11/2025 11:27

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/11/2025 11:25

Break. MD will take us to to lunch then K (Keira?) Patterson this afternoon.

Hows MDs 'tone' in court today?

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 11:27

<puffing and blowing> I have just been over to the Bluestocking and collected the drinks trolley. Here you go vipers - enjoy

Lunde · 18/11/2025 11:27

ProfessorEmeritusVeraAtkins · 18/11/2025 11:25

NC is going to 'finish' MD by lunchtime - I'll say!

One way or another.....

Perhaps she will need to go home coz she's "sick"

ProfessorVegemiteandhoneyontoast · 18/11/2025 11:28

EdithStourton · 18/11/2025 11:21

You're going to be busy...

Good point. I may need an assistant or three, or three hundred.

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:29

From NW

If you are not clear on the 3 July email's important having just picked this up today, please have a look at my Week 1 Summary and scroll right the way down to "The Evil Plot" which sets out...

https://genderblog.net/morrison-v-belfast-film-festival-week-1/

... the claimant's case that the 3 July email was part of a plan to generate complaints about SM (at the main behest of board member Mark Cousins) so they could start an investigation into SM with a view to either getting rid of her...

Morrison v Belfast Film Festival: Week 1

Sara Morrison (centre) with two supporters on Friday This employment tribunal is taking place at Killymeal House in Belfast. Sara Morrison is the Claimant. Belfast Film Festival (BFF) are the Respo…

https://genderblog.net/morrison-v-belfast-film-festival-week-1/

EdithStourton · 18/11/2025 11:30

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 11:24

..literally 24/7 365 days a year ...

😄

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:30

From NW

... moving her sideways or otherwise disciplining her.
The Respondent thinks this theory is a load of "rubbish" and is resisting it.

Their argument is that they behaved perfectly properly throughout, did not discriminate and that SM has no claim for that nor constructive dismissal.

ProfessorFanOfBen · 18/11/2025 11:31

Gah, has twitter gone down for other people too?

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 11:31

ProfessorEmeritusVeraAtkins · 18/11/2025 11:25

NC is going to 'finish' MD by lunchtime - I'll say!

hungry nat geo wild GIF by Savage Kingdom

'comfortably' finished by lunchtimeSmile
sorry I couldn't find a lioness and I hope Myrtle doesn't mind me borrowing one of her cousins..Grin

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EdithStourton · 18/11/2025 11:31

ProfessorDameFarriersGirl · 18/11/2025 11:27

<puffing and blowing> I have just been over to the Bluestocking and collected the drinks trolley. Here you go vipers - enjoy

I'll give myself 29 mins, till the sun is over the yardarm, and go for a sloe gin and tonic.

Cailleach1 · 18/11/2025 11:33

EmploymentJudgeSigourneyHoward · 18/11/2025 11:26

Did MD know that SM had told her solicitor that she didn't have her email password, otherwise why would MD think that Mr Chambers should notice the (unsent?) email in the SAR bundle and think - oh my, should tell Sara about her email password. As opposed to Mr Chambers just looking at the totality of the SAR bundle....

MD put a needle in a haystack. And now is all ‘did you not find the needle in the haystack in October and realise what the needle was? It is definitely you, and not me, as I clearly put it in the haystack.’ Not playing very obvious silly bugg*r games at all.

Over egged the pudding, as there comes a time when the denial is not at all plausible.

ProfDrILikeDungs · 18/11/2025 11:36

Thank you ProfessorDameFarriersGirl for the hot chocolate made with buttermilk, yum!

Warming my hands too.

ProfessorIDareSay · 18/11/2025 11:38

ProfessorDoctorJudgeOfSteel · 18/11/2025 11:12

I once advertised on the penpal pages on Channel 4 teletext. I think this should enable me to to become the Chair of Ofcom.

I once booked a holiday advertised on Teletext. Think that qualifies me to be Foreign Secretary 😁✈

ProfessorVegemiteandhoneyontoast · 18/11/2025 11:38

MarieDeGournay · 18/11/2025 11:24

..literally 24/7 365 days a year ...

Ahem...

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:39

I am having significant issues getting MN to load on my ipad.

I've switched to my phone but it will be slower.

Apologies.

LoveIceland · 18/11/2025 11:39

Mumsnet and X went down for me then! Didn’t know what to do with myself. Conspiracy 🤔

ProfessorMyrtleLion · 18/11/2025 11:40

From NW

There has been a comment from a gentleman sitting in the same row as me surprised that the Director of a Film Festival was only vaguely aware of the term gaslighting, given the term derives from the Alfred Hitchcock movie "Gaslight" - something...

... I must admit I was wholly unaware of.

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