Sara Morrison v BFF Thread 3

[SexRealistic]

For background please read here:

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

Being fair to them, I suspect I'm not the only one who's in awe of how quickly people have researched and pulled things together. It rather leaves me wondering why we're bothering with MI5 and the SIS. Unless, of course, there's something you incredible ladies can't tell us because you'd have to kill us if you did! (In which case, I'd like to make it clear that my user name is even more appropriate than usual.)

It's been cleared up as a mistype of "for an academic"

It is quite astonishing really. The judge had obviously lost her rag. I do understand being pissed off, but someone in that position should be capable of avoiding intemperance.

Bingo!

At present we as public observers can see it’s possible McKeown was closely involved in this.

So surely the Tribunal needs to address this.

In 2017 40 employees complete a survey on trans ideology and suddenly in 2025 we have a policy affecting 47,000 employees and stopping them accessing single sex spaces.

It is illegal and offers a good re-education for heretics section.

Quite some lovely blatant lies in policy - at 17.2 it says

“the legal position is clear that whenever a person begins to live permanently in their affirmed gender they should be permitted to use the facilities allocated to that gender

Oh and we have a lovely re-education offering for the heretics:

Managers are expected to support the trans colleague’s rights on this issue and may do so by dealing with unreasonable behaviour through communication, discussion, education and adherence to the NICS diversity and inclusion values.

Some posts may also require the use of showers/changing facilities and the legal position regarding changing facilities is as that for toilet facilities.

Nope that’s just a lie. Your single sex spaces have both sexes in them at once.

I mean someone in that sector should challenge that policy. It’s on a Gvt website FFS.

Definitely.

She came across as unprofessional, inexperienced and out of depth. Which is wild for someone with so much experience and seniority.

The lack of self reflection is odd

You're sitting in a panel in a tribunal where the main issue for the employer was that their employee made a speech saying men should be kept out of women's sss.

You know that you were a driving force in getting a policy that requires men to be admitted to women's sss supported and adopted though your union work, and that there is paper trail showing this including a front cover with you and only one other name on it.

You need to have mentioned this at some point surely?

Yes yes and yes

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They keep the record and track the nuances so we can go back and ruminate and cogitate.

They and the fabulous women who sit in these rooms and report back and connect to the hive mind are incredible. To the incredible women who won’t wheest - I was star struck.

Sara is standing strong but she’s not standing alone.

These are big issues. But this is what happens in places where no one can afford to challenge the status quo.

Sara is paying a big price. Sandie paid the price. The Darlington nurses paid the price.

Thanks also to JKR paying the bills - so Naomi comes over and blows the thing wide open.

We're really getting a master's course in institutional capture with this case.

The other panel member was fraudulently misrepresenting their credentials and celebrating PRIDE & LGBT posts inc saying Fuck the DUP.

McKeown is hiding that he was a guiding hand on a policy that violates the dignity of 10s of thousands of women.

At least the Panel is fairly balanced in their bias.

Duly done. Thanks for all you're doing for us, our daughters and our daughters daughters.

Very good reminder. I’d forgotten she’d specifically said that. Pretty clear to us now that Boyd recused herself probably for more than one reason.

The blog account from a supporter detailed that on her way out Boyd had a face on her whilst looking pointedly at NC and saying ‘thank you’ with (my words) heavy sarcasm. Which suggests if she ain’t no Prof she does have a heavy duty brass neck.

I’ve decided to retrain in opposition research.

If @BettyBooper shows me how to use that Way Back Machine and @SionnachRuadh gives me a crash course in the NI institutions I’ll make a killing.

Can you add a screenshot of the names to me here? I’m on my phone while making the kids breakfast. That’s some strong evidence.

As wise Mumsnetters taught me and other folks - always keep the receipts.

If she has a PhD, Dr is an earned title and should be used. It is not a title reserved in any way for MDs.

I thoroughly respect the hard work done to achieve a PhD in any field- the achievement is not lessened by being in fungi.

PhD = Dr.

Quite often women who achieve that degree feel embarrassed to use their title. They should NOT be.

There was a recent recognition of that fact on X a while back and women starting asserting it in their X IDs. Fabulous.

@MyrtleLion theres more - I just didn’t want to put all my homework on the internet.

As you read you’ll see it’s connected 🧐

Sorry, I haven't found anything new - it was shared by others in a screenshot on the other thread. Will have a look back.

That has been established as a typo by those in the room. ‘Foreign’ should be ‘for an’ (autocorrect perhaps)

so ‘for an academic’

That’s grand - I can take a gander myself when at a computer.

Although is 40 not quite young to be a judge? So maybe not that much experience?

Sorry it's the screenshots in this thread of the feedback from the Central Whitley NIPSA team on the NICS trans policy. MM is Central Whitley.

So Naomi asked that the full panel be recused for real or apparent bias. One went, though probably for made up reasons. The judge and the other member stayed. That other member has been instrumental in advancing “trans rights” via his union activities, but neither he nor the judge thinks this is a problem.
Surely grounds for appeal? Or are appeals (or whatever they are in NI) solely on points of law? Is this a point of law? I feel very dim here.

Also, in looking at the screenshots on the last thread re the signatories to the manifesto that SM was criticising....NIPSA is a pretty bigly font..maybe MM should have pointed that out on day 1?

No, I think I saw somewhere she's been doing it 5 years since 2020. So a whippersnapper compared to some. But she is the judge and the one who sets the tone.

Just going back over the posts from Friday, which was very fast-moving. NC asked to re-start at 1400hrs, but the judge insisted on 1300hrs. Would that extra hour have allowed NC and CE to find enough evidence on MM to bring him down too?

Perfect - got that!