Sara Morrison v BFF Thread 3

[SexRealistic]

For background please read here:

https://genderblog.net/sara-morrison-v-belfast-film-festival/

"I’m beginning to think she might not even have had a visiting professorship formally speaking but had been, perhaps, invited in to give a talk or offer mentorship and someone referred to her that way."

I get the vibes that she might have been a very occasional guest speaker/lecturer - perhaps giving a talk on careers/current practices in the industry etc. But it doesn't make you a professor.

but her facebook pal called her 'doctor' 4 weeks ago online, so she seems to be alternating between both titles
Its all so odd - you'd think if you had a doctorate, or even experience as a visiting professor or such like, you'd shout it everywhere.
I know academics, they'd be on me like a ton of bricks if I used anything higher than my Msc next to my name.

Has she been given an honorary doctorate by UU? On top of a visiting professorship? But if it was an honorary doctorate, that could’ve been something she explained and defended because those are typically awarded for people doing good work.

You’re like a voice from three years ago, not yesterday.

She's not on the list of UU honorary graduates: Honorary Graduates Conferred Since 1985

To get an honorary doctorate, you would have to be quite distinguished, like a CEO or a golfer or someone who's been on TV in England.

someone who's been on TV in England
🤣😂

I can't find something. The thing that states she's a visiting professor of the University of Ulster. Can someone assist? Was it an Re3 web page? Or from somewhere else? Or am I imagining things? (I could be, its been a long weekend)

Wasn’t it her own LinkedIn page? There’s a screenshot on one of the threads I think - the linky thing at the top should have it…

In all seriousness, I'm from NI and a journo, so... :)

Imagine digging into all this properly. That'd be a documentary in itself.

Ok TERF queens. 👸

I don’t want to be a hater - but if we can focus our minds to

Michael McKeown, Central Whitley Trade Side member of NIPSA.

Getting as much clarity on his experience will address potential bias in the remainder of the panel.

If he’s clean he’s clean.

If he’s not Mumsnet will clean up 🧼

Has anyone looked at the judge?

Never mind I found it

(But now I've lost the link!).

So she's stating it on her own website.

@zaramysaviour do you have access to papers? Like Newry local papers.

McKeown was an author and he should have done publicity in 2014.

There is a clear thread that if we pull on it appears to show him at the heart of trans adoption through NIPSA annual reports.

Happy to be proved wrong but I’d need to be proved wrong at this stage. 🤪

Link web.archive.org/web/20160820153951/re3group.com/view.php?PID=47&TID=2

Went to Queens and worked for solicitors firms in Belfast. Then got a cushy number at the ET. Resigned directorship of an Athletics charity type of company. Small pond but thinks she's a big fish and not used to lawyering in the bigger world.
No shit found on her apart from her appalling loss of temper.

Thank you. I'm having a nightmare with links this week.

listed as Dr DB on page 137 here (2003).

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7c15cced915d210ade17cb/PublicBodies2003.pdf

https://www.leftarchive.ie/document/5744/

https://www.facebook.com/share/17NTd9inZC/

Specialist employment lawyer by background, so was in and out of the ET for years before taking the step up to be a judge. Very familiar with this world. It's not a big niche, but it's busy enough in a place where people are always being sacked and taking tribunal cases over it.

I'm certain that I know her from somewhere - her face is very familiar - but it must have been years ago and I don't remember any details.

Two ready to go streamer true-'crime' serials from the island of Ireland in less than a month, the DJ Carey story and now this.

No no, it’s definitely fraud to use a title you don’t legitimately hold.

So saying to someone in passing ‘I’m a professor’ is not an issue per se but sitting in a tribunal with a name label announcing you as Professor, and with all legal documents repeating it,
that would be a very big deal legally speaking.

if judgements from previous ETs have previously been published with her as Professor Boyd, and she has no right to call herself that, then the documents themselves are fraudulent and all those judgements rendered meaningless.

I wonder if it is possible to search for previous judgments on panels where she has sat because if those published docs use Mrs Boyd rather than Prof then they are all complicit in the misrepresentation of her status here and I think that would be unlikely.

I can’t search myself the boo but if no one else can I’ll try and dig later.

I knew Carmel about 100 years ago. I wouldn't say we were close, let's put it that way, and internal NIPSA sniping is always fun.

@zaramysaviour and whilst you are digging, how much is someone paid for sitting on a NI tribunal? Upthread(s), iirc, it was suggested that they were paid £500 per day. Not a bad earner. Then there is the question of such nonsense as winning a "prestigious" award after being nominated by a "top marketing and public relations firm". And how much public money do the likes of BFF receive, and is there an unbiased audit of such payments?

Microsoft Word - RE3 CEO Wins Award With Picture.doc

This from Chat GPT:

‘Thus: if someone uses the title “Professor” (when they are not legitimately one) and (1) does so dishonestly, (2) makes a false or misleading representation, (3) does so with the intent of gain (financial or other benefit) or to cause loss to someone else, then there is a possibility of a fraud offence.’

in a tribunal setting it would definitely be seen as a false representation to a claimant’s or respondent’s hearing because the title lends weight to their authority and would easily be argued in court that it reached the level of criminality.

A defence might be that she didn’t realise she couldn’t use it but in the environments within which she claims to operate that would be a stretch.

Gillian McKeith used the title Dr to misrepresent herself as a medical doctor but she did hold a PhD tho not from an accredited institution which means that you can’t use the title (institution needs to be accredited to issue such a degree) so there was a little bit of greyness that meant it might not be criminal representation.

I suspect that no one would want to charge Boyd though as it would bring the whole judiciary into disrepute.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=nipsa.org.uk/publications/AR2016.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjm9_KT4faQAxUiTkEAHR5KNjs4FBAWegQIOhAB&usg=AOvVaw35zUyRJDHGMybRaADHjrfS