what did you know and when did you know it?

[truthsayers]

Brilliant article here. The tide is definitely turning:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/11/11/the-trans-reckoning-has-arrived/

I think a lot of us knew right from the start but the ‘be kind’ mantra blinded sensible conversations and around 10 years ago education was bombarded by Stonewall propaganda.

I think we also got bogged down ‘labelling’ any anxiety experienced by kids growing up and the idea they might be happier as the opposite sex/gender became the ‘solution’.

I recall reading about the Tavistock Clinic and being horrified at what was going on. did I do anything? No. Do I wish I had? Absolutely. I did attempt to discuss it with colleagues-men didn’t want to even entertain it and most female colleagues looked at me disdainfully and one even warned me that I sounded bigoted.

We are collectively responsible for this situation and it will, in my opinion, be the scandal of a generation.

About eight years ago I read a book called the Trauma Cleaner about a trans woman and it was what got me thinking. It's actually an extremely sympathetic book (it's a biography) and very much takes a TWAW position. However it's a true story and everything the protagonist does is so male. They leave their wife and kids and never look back so they can go and do their own thing among lots of other examples. I had a real scales falling from my eyes moment.

I don't dislike trans women (and I am honestly often quite repelled by the language and hate I see on here) but I have never been able to see them as women at all since then.

Can you give some examples of the 'hate' you have seen?

It was the thread about the TV show Riot Women. There's a very minor character who is trans and played by a TIM. There were people announcing they wouldn't watch anything with a trans character in it. People who didn't think trans characters should be on TV at all. Completely against the usual we don't care how anyone dresses as long as they're not pretending to be women line that used to be popular on here (and is where I sit). This guy didn't describe himself as a woman it was literally a bloke in a frock, existing.

when I read about 12 yr old girls having double mastectomies in america about a decade ago I was horrified. A TV show was made about a young boy who was castrated as he thought he was a girl.....Mermaids ....the whole bollocks of 'gender affirming care' the army of angry men pro trans kids-and keen to erode womens & childrens safe spaces, it's all there in the open. I've always said this is a huge medical scandal & a gift to pedos.

Who benefits from trapping confused young adults with a body of a pre pubescent child?

So a few posts here and there which are dismissive?

To be honest, though, i do have some sympathy with that dismissal, even though I may have expressed it differently. We've been force fed drag queens and 'trans' for many years now...and after a while you have simply had enough of it.

The fact is those who adopt trans identities are either male or female like the rest of us, not some unique category of human being. I've had enough of it all to be frank. It has undermined the dignity and integrity of women and encouraged a couple of generations of vulnerable children and adults to believe they were born in the 'wrong body'.

Trans activists, politicians, media figures who have fallen into the cult like mentality have been censorious and nasty. I think we can all have just a little sympathy with the odd joke or dismissal, can't we?

You don’t think it might have been quite offensive to women to have a male playing a woman in a show about menopause and that’s why they didn’t want to watch it?

I think we also got bogged down ‘labelling’ any anxiety experienced by kids growing up and the idea they might be happier as the opposite sex/gender became the ‘solution’.

Anxiety is absolutely normal. It is normal to be nervous or anxious about new situations. It is normal to be nervous about life changes.

We pathologise anxiety, shyness, and nervousness, and it does young people no good at all. We learn by doing the hard things.

He wasn't playing a woman - unless you think TWAW, which I don't.

That's a powerful article.
I remain deeply ashamed of the teaching profession for being so captured by all this. For abdicating their responsibilities fo safeguard children. For enabling predatory values that children are not entitled to boundaries, that girls must be compelled to strip in front of males etc. For wasting hundreds of thousands of ££ on propping up deeply dangerous to children adult trans lobby groups and allowing them to sell their "born in the wrong body" nonsense to children.

For failing to notice that so many of the children caught up in this cult were and are mentally vulnerable with numerous co morbidities. And so much more.

Credit to the schools and adults who managed to keep Mermaids, Stonewall etc out of their schools. They really have been courageous - especially with Ofsted, the DfE & all the unions bowing to the demands of trahs extremists. Shame on the rest of them.

Yes the speed at which the idea of being born in the wrong body was accepted is crazy. I remember a friend of mine being unbelievably shocked that I didn't think you could be born on the wrong body - she thought it was a completely uncontroversial thing.

I knew from the very beginning. But it's genuinely in my nature to resist following the herd.

Moreover, it just wasn't logically nor scientifically sound the rhetoric proponents pushed out. But then my degree consisted of genetics and human physiology.

@Kuretake You do realise that reddit's teenage boys turn up here and post comments that they can they take back to reddit and claim are by women? I didnt read that thread but remember that anyone can claim to be anything on the internet, including the regular claims to be "gender critical" by posters who are not.

That's a fair point and I'll bear it in mind when reading this board.

That’s a great article, although one that pricks my conscience too. Whilst I’ve done my best to campaign quietly and anonymously, I too have avoided being public with my views, although I have developed a good line in “it’s important to be truthful and not mislead people”.

In my defence, I am a Healthcare Professional and need to keep my career to pay the bills. I can’t help thinking that anyone who actively punished or cancelled the brave people who did speak out has as much, if not more culpability as the true believers. I’m sure though, that there will be a spate of “I thought I was doing what was right for the poor ickle twans people” articles incoming.

I’ve never believed it, though in the past (more than a decade ago) I suppose I was vaguely sympathetic to the idea that they had a mental health condition which made them think they were women, and thought they could be accommodated in society. I’m not sure I thought they should be in female spaces though, and the women identifying as men were much less common.

I'm confused by your comment. Why was he called Miranda and referred to as she then?

What language? Like calling them men? Or pointing out that a lot of males with a trans identity are misogynistic and sexist? Or women defending their rights to single sex spaces?
I must admit, some of the hate on here does get to me. Like when a rape survivor was told her trauma mattered less than a male’s upset at being told to use the facilities for her sex. Like women being called transphobes and bigots for refusing to accept males in their spaces. Like the absolute audacity of males with a trans identity or their allies telling women that they must reframe their language and behaviour to include males or they are Nazis and deserve to be punished. Is that the language and hate that repels you? Because if so, I agree.

What language? Like calling them men? Or pointing out that a lot of males with a trans identity are misogynistic and sexist? Or women defending their rights to single sex spaces?
I must admit, some of the hate on here does get to me. Like when a rape survivor was told her trauma mattered less than a male’s upset at being told to use the facilities for her sex. Like women being called transphobes and bigots for refusing to accept males in their spaces. Like the absolute audacity of males with a trans identity or their allies telling women that they must reframe their language and behaviour to include males or they are Nazis and deserve to be punished. Is that the language and hate that repels you? Because if so, I agree.

Because he was playing a “transwoman”.

I first came across trans people as being one of the groups to be protected from discrimination and harassment under the Equality Act so I was initially sympathetic. At that point, it seemed that they were a small but distinct population who should be treated with respect but obviously had limits on how far their transition could be respected, hence the single-sex exemptions.

I heard the term TERF - ie racist, bigot, nazi - so I ignored the "bathroom bills" as intolerant, right-wing bulls*it. I was definitely not a Terf! I was tolerant, inclusive, progressive and kind 😇

Then....Posie Parker. Furrowed my brow a bit - why was she in trouble for saying a woman is an adult human female? Then...Lia Thomas!!!! A 6'4" man stole women's national swimming titles and no one stopped him or said anything??? Surely this wasn't what was meant to be happening?

Then I came here...and Reduxx...and Ovarit. I never speak publicly as I would lose my job in the public sector and I can't afford that. But I support whole-heartedly.

I feel some responsibility because at one point I was one of the thick-headed idiots that wouldn't listen to reason. I was caught in the liberal feminism bubble and argued for self-ID. I was under the misapprehension, like so many people, that this was about a miniscule number of people who experienced anguish and distress about their sexed body, and therefore we needed to be kind and accommodate people like this on a society that has to be for all of us. I still believe we should accommodate where we can - but without forcing 'compromise' on women, which is basically what I was arguing for. I see how I used to be in everything TRAs say.

Around 2018 I watched Rachel McKinnon give a talk on sport and it made NO SENSE. It was basically an argument for doing away with sex categories in sport and I found nobody was willing to own the fact that that's what it was at heart. The floodgates just opened after that, both in terms of this subject and my wider feminism. That's why it makes me laugh when people talk about educating ourselves etc. I did, I was one of you, and then I knew better.

I first became aware of this madness (and started talking about it) when The National Geographic published its gender special in 2017 and the cover (attached) showed many different genders but excluded women. I read the articles and couldn’t believe what I was reading. It was a real shock to me that such a respected publication was peddling utter tosh. I tried discussing it at a feminist group I was a member of and was basically chased out for daring to question trans ideology.

Mm. I think the article is ignoring that things change, and people change. I knew some things in 1995, when I married my first husband who had been on female hormones for a few months and then stopped, but that was a different time, so what I knew then was not the same as what I know now. Having said that, a 15 year old in 2025 who has been thoroughly educated by the culture since 2015 that physical sex is a choice and that ‘lesbian’ is a weird old fashioned word and that they should prove themselves by being open to sex with ‘queer women’ does look remarkably similar to a 15 year old like me in 1984 who’d be told they must be a lezzer if they didn’t want to be fingered by Alan behind the bike sheds. Common factor; the unacceptability of women having an authentic existence without men. The rest is just fashion.

The scales fell off for me posting on here, precisely the 'Break it down for me' thread. I came on with a 'be kind' approach was robustly scolded by Datun, then did some research.

Once you see it you can't UNSEE it.