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Glamour Magazine UK celebrates nine men as Women Of The Year

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PoetryEmotion · 30/10/2025 12:56

As trans rights face increasing threat in the UK, Glamour honours nine of the community's most ground-breaking voices at this year's Women of the Year Awards. From fashion and music to charity and activism work, these trailblazers work tirelessly to empower, uplift and celebrate trans voices.

And naturally the article is written by Shon Faye 🙄

Archive link, so as not to give them the clicks:

https://archive.is/MiNAL

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 30/10/2025 19:37

PoetryEmotion · 30/10/2025 13:13

It's so funny. He's been going on about GCs being the "biddy mafia" for years, criticising us as being frumps, etc etc.

And now he discovers he's not one of the cool "girls" any more 😂

I'm not sure whether I prefer "prosecco Stormfront" or "biddy mafia". Who is cooler: Private Geerhart from 'Allo 'Allo, or Ma Barker?

PoetryEmotion · 30/10/2025 19:38

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 30/10/2025 19:37

I'm not sure whether I prefer "prosecco Stormfront" or "biddy mafia". Who is cooler: Private Geerhart from 'Allo 'Allo, or Ma Barker?

How about the Cava Coven 🍾😅

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/10/2025 19:56

Sure, Shon. No one's grimacing going 'yeah they're men' who wouldn't have raised that response if you'd celebrated them for who they are as opposed to shoving them in the spotlight and bellowing 'pretend!' at everyone.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 20:06

JazzyBBBG · 30/10/2025 18:17

I just came to find this having read Janet Murray's piece about it on Facebook which is very good.

All I can say regarding this whole thing is WTAF. However I have pasted Janet's post below which is a lot more eloquent!

Dear friend (who thinks I'm being 'unkind' to men who say they're women),

We're both in mid-life now. But remember how much we loved women's magazines in our 20s: Cosmo, Marie Claire, Glamour ...?

Well nine men have just been named as Glamour UK's “Women of the Year.” A magazine aimed at women aged 25–35.

Now we have both daughters around the same age. Young women just starting their adult lives. And I don’t think you fully see what’s happening here.

Because this isn’t just about the cheek (or the absurdity) of giving men women’s awards - though that’s bad enough.

It’s about something much deeper.
It’s about conditioning (I'd call it 'grooming') our daughters to believe they must accept men in their single-sex spaces.

To believe they can’t say “no” to a man in the ladies’ toilets or changing rooms - even if he gives them the creeps, or his behaviour is off (like “Rose” in the Darlington Nurses case).

And that saying “no” makes them unkind or intolerant.

It's teaching them to override their instincts.
To silence that small voice that says: “Something doesn’t feel right.”

Hopefully your daughter will never need a rape crisis centre, a domestic violence shelter or a prison cell.

But if she does, she’s being taught that she can’t say no to men there either.

And if you’re not telling your daughter that it's okay to say “no” to men in single-sex spaces - or if you’re too afraid to say it yourself - then I hope you never need hospital care or a nursing home.

Because your daughter will have been conditioned to believe there’s nothing wrong with a man providing your intimate care - as long as he says he’s a woman.

I know you want to be kind.

So do I.

But real kindness means protecting women and girls - not surrendering their safety, privacy and dignity in the name of politeness.

With love,

Janet

👏

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 20:08

AelitaQueenofMars · 30/10/2025 18:56

Forgive me, but I ploughed all the way through to the turgid end of that piece. And when I read this: “Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that” I just thought, jog on fella (which would be most entertaining in those thigh high boots).

Hahaha is that an actual quote? Delusion springs eternal, I guess.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/10/2025 20:08

terryleather · 30/10/2025 18:33

I agree, women are being trolled for clicks, shits & giggles.

Everyone loves to troll women.

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 20:14

Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that

Maaaaaaaaaaaate.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 30/10/2025 20:32

Last time I looked, women didn't generally talk to each other like that. Drag queens, OTOH...

BundleBoogie · 30/10/2025 20:32

Bergdorf appears to have had either a serious jaw reduction or has been photoshopped to the max - he’s got the pointiest chin ever!

They forgot to disguise all those large feet though. I must admit I didn’t know they did Jimmy Choos in a size 10!

ArabellaSaurus · 30/10/2025 20:34

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 30/10/2025 20:32

Last time I looked, women didn't generally talk to each other like that. Drag queens, OTOH...

It's a bit desperate Dan, isn't it.

CottonCandyCake · 30/10/2025 21:16

One of the young people at my work came in today wearing a ‘protect the dolls’ t-shirt. I resisted the urge to say ‘what about trans men, usually smaller and weaker than ‘the dolls’

MarieDeGournay · 30/10/2025 21:17

Floisme · 30/10/2025 17:13

Fist bump @MarieDeGournay Nice to meet another fashion fan on FWR!

Check flannel shirts are in currently, acc to the Vogue website😮
I can't see any of Glamour mags Women of the Year rocking a check flannel shirt, can you?😄

Helleofabore · 30/10/2025 23:55

MarieDeGournay · 30/10/2025 21:17

Check flannel shirts are in currently, acc to the Vogue website😮
I can't see any of Glamour mags Women of the Year rocking a check flannel shirt, can you?😄

I LURVE flannie shirts!!

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 00:10

menopausalmare · 30/10/2025 18:53

Good job I haven't read Glamour for bloody years.

Oh, do people read it? I assumed it was one of those mags you just flick through looking at the pictures.

PoetryEmotion · 31/10/2025 07:56

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 00:10

Oh, do people read it? I assumed it was one of those mags you just flick through looking at the pictures.

It's not even a magazine any more, just a click-baity website!

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Floisme · 31/10/2025 08:05

MarieDeGournay · 30/10/2025 21:17

Check flannel shirts are in currently, acc to the Vogue website😮
I can't see any of Glamour mags Women of the Year rocking a check flannel shirt, can you?😄

I've never met a woman who didn't love a flannel shirt.

JellySaurus · 31/10/2025 08:33

Seems appropriate. IIRC the original meaning of glamour was a spell cast to create the illusion that something was more beautiful than it was in reality.

DrBlackbird · 31/10/2025 08:38

PoetryEmotion · 30/10/2025 13:45

Wait, what? My post linking to a tweet was deleted? Is that not allowed now?

Let's try again, without commentary:

I know we are in a war and fighting for our lives, but posing in fashion mags while pouting and flouncing about is not trans activism. Just saying.

https://x.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1983827420726882621

Was your commentary not in the spirit of #bekind? With some new young TWAW mod hard at work trying to make the CG biddy mafia kinder. I wondered about that after seeing the thread on ignoring trolls was deleted. Tbf I would’ve fallen over myself beingkind myself in my 20s with the added benefit of feeling virtuous. It was JKR’s essay and this board that made me rethink that position.

DrBlackbird · 31/10/2025 08:51

StElwicksNeighbourhoodAssociation · 30/10/2025 15:31

So, when you get to the bottom of the article it's just Shon grifting.

Well, Shon was worried about an easy life making money just by writing and talking so very strategic to convince Glamour to pay for this article. A whole new sideline is opening up by writing about not being able to get work by writing.

PoetryEmotion · 31/10/2025 09:15

I've just realised that Willoughby must be spitting tacks that he wasn't invited to the Glamour "Women" Of The Year Awards yesterday. Oh dear, you're one of the overlooked now - how does it feel, mate? 😆

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PoetryEmotion · 31/10/2025 09:17

DrBlackbird · 31/10/2025 08:38

Was your commentary not in the spirit of #bekind? With some new young TWAW mod hard at work trying to make the CG biddy mafia kinder. I wondered about that after seeing the thread on ignoring trolls was deleted. Tbf I would’ve fallen over myself beingkind myself in my 20s with the added benefit of feeling virtuous. It was JKR’s essay and this board that made me rethink that position.

I believe there was a reference to the not-female version of Willoughby's current name. I really don't know what else, I was only referring to Willoughby, not the blessed caste of all transwomen. So it didn't go against T&Cs.

I just said that he was clearly FEWMIN at not being in that article 😅

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tiddletoddles · 31/10/2025 09:18

I think people just need to understand, not only are we human, most of us are badder than everyone else. Put some respect on it, bitch! I look better than you. I dress better than you. I smell better than you. Please learn that and understand that. That’s what I would like for the dolls.

I just don't understand why I have to let a man have unbridled access to my spaces because he (allegedly) is better-looking than me. Apparently it's misogynistic to have the sole criterion of being a woman as being female, but saying someone is less of a woman because they're not attractive isn't misogynistic AT ALL.

I wish women would read stuff like this and wake the fuck up.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/10/2025 09:23

Well this all seems very transphobic to me. "Protect the dolls" ie the TW who allegedly pass even without styling airbrushing and filters but not the "bricks" the TW who don't remotely pass

tut tut

ErrolTheDragon · 31/10/2025 09:26

Wtf exactly did he mean by ‘smell better’?Confused

nicepotoftea · 31/10/2025 09:30

Now, trans people – and especially trans women – are facing a committed attempt from anti-trans pressure groups and right-wing politicians to make exclusionary policy the default across British public life including toilets, changing rooms, leisure facilities, workplaces, hospital wards and crisis support services.

Yes, single sex women's facilities do, necessarily, exclude men.

The intention is clear: to drive us out of public life to repress, then deny our existence.

I think the intention is to increase acceptance of all kinds of men in men's facilities.

with a blanket ban on access to medication for trans people under 18.

Just treatment that has no evidence base and has been shown to cause harm, Not clear why Faye is arguing that these standards should be ignored.

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