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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Chersfrozenface · 27/10/2025 20:02

These shy, timorous, downtrodden, terrified little flowers - they're all the same, aren't they?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/10/2025 20:05

He is an abusive man, Ellie. You don’t have to call him she.

TwistedWonder · 27/10/2025 20:10

Abusive agressive entitled bloke sticks on a dress and a bad wig and quell surprise - he’’s still an abusive aggressive entitled bloke

But they only want to pre most marginalised etc etc etc

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/10/2025 20:16

Because pretending to be a member of the opposite sex is the mark of a totally stable person

I hope this abusive man is made to back off

BabaYagasHouse · 27/10/2025 20:47

The MP said she was accused of wanting to “legalise abuse”, as well as sexual assault and “deprivation of civil liberties” for trans women.
“I have been heavily involved with a lot of the Labour Party’s work in ending violence against women and girls, it is something I take very seriously and passionately”, she told the court.
“To get this sort of thing in an email that I want to legalise it and am complicit in whatever happened to her, I found it quite distressing and offensive.”

I don't even know what to comment on this section, other than it seems to exemplify what a surreal state of affairs we are at.

BabaYagasHouse · 27/10/2025 20:48

Deleted as double post

RogueFemale · 27/10/2025 20:53

Please can we stop using the term 'transwoman', like the media does. These are men, not a variety of women. They are transvestites, or autogynephiliacs, or men-who-identify-as-women, or men-with-penises-who-pretend-to-identify-as women, or a combination. A type of man, not a type of woman.

BundleBoogie · 27/10/2025 21:07

What a ‘classy’ look - man with a fag hanging out of his mouth as he walks.

Nobody should be saying ‘she’ when talking about him.

SunnieShine · 27/10/2025 21:10

RogueFemale · 27/10/2025 20:53

Please can we stop using the term 'transwoman', like the media does. These are men, not a variety of women. They are transvestites, or autogynephiliacs, or men-who-identify-as-women, or men-with-penises-who-pretend-to-identify-as women, or a combination. A type of man, not a type of woman.

Yes, no need to a man a woman. Hes a man, and should be called a man.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 27/10/2025 21:19

By continuing to refer to this man a she, they are just feeding into his unhinged delusions, and 'it's not going to stop' while they are enabling him.

DoubleDuvet · 27/10/2025 21:21

It is really disturbing how these people seem to be able to weaponise legal proceedings and other processes.

How do they get so many statutory and other services to do their bidding?

What is in place to prevent other victims of similar harassment from being dragged into a court case they know nothing about at the behest of a stalker? We don't all have the Speaker and their legal team to hand....

The stress and anxiety must have been awful.

unsync · 27/10/2025 22:35

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ErrolTheDragon · 27/10/2025 23:40

DoubleDuvet · 27/10/2025 21:21

It is really disturbing how these people seem to be able to weaponise legal proceedings and other processes.

How do they get so many statutory and other services to do their bidding?

What is in place to prevent other victims of similar harassment from being dragged into a court case they know nothing about at the behest of a stalker? We don't all have the Speaker and their legal team to hand....

The stress and anxiety must have been awful.

At least this one has got his comeuppance - although whether the sentence will be any sort of deterrent I rather doubt.

fromorbit · 28/10/2025 00:56

An awful case of abusive stalking.

With all that has happened I am sure many other Labour MPs have been targeted to some degree. This will help shift the mood in the party and highlight the violence in Trans activism.

Threatening the Chancellor and her sister the Solicitor General shows them the dark face of male violence. If they will threaten powerful female politicians what chance ordinary women.

JaquelineHide · 28/10/2025 08:12

Wes Streeting's office was vandalised by TRAs. That Trans Bash Back group.

WimbledonWhites · 28/10/2025 08:24

SunnieShine · 27/10/2025 21:10

Yes, no need to a man a woman. Hes a man, and should be called a man.

Agreed though I only do it because of MN rules and getting deleted. But times have changed and next time I’ll do it and see what happens.

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miraxxx · 28/10/2025 08:43

No words for the county court that issued the witness summons?

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2025 09:41

I wonder what Rachel and Ellie talking about over Christmas Dinner and whether Rachel is fully gender critical yet...

Chersfrozenface · 28/10/2025 10:01

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2025 09:41

I wonder what Rachel and Ellie talking about over Christmas Dinner and whether Rachel is fully gender critical yet...

Given that Ellis conscientiously she-hers the harasser, I'm willing to bet they:re both still "Oh, that's just one bad individual, you can't judge all of them..."

Still NATWALT, in fact.

Chersfrozenface · 28/10/2025 10:40

Ellie, obviously.

PatrickBaitman · 28/10/2025 10:52

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ArabellaSaurus · 28/10/2025 11:04

WimbledonWhites · 28/10/2025 08:24

Agreed though I only do it because of MN rules and getting deleted. But times have changed and next time I’ll do it and see what happens.

A male is a man, and a gender critical view that states this is protected in law.

ArabellaSaurus · 28/10/2025 11:06

This sounds like a terrifying ordeal. I hope the court outcome actually stops him from harassing her, unfortunately stalkers can be very persistent.

Also unfortunate is that we are seeing more and more violent and aggressive pushback from trans rights activists as women's rights are asserted.

As someone else noted, the most dangerous time for women is leaving an abusive relationship. The government have effectively ended the relationship, and some narcissists and disordered people react aggressively.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/10/2025 14:52

Chersfrozenface · 28/10/2025 10:01

Given that Ellis conscientiously she-hers the harasser, I'm willing to bet they:re both still "Oh, that's just one bad individual, you can't judge all of them..."

Still NATWALT, in fact.

Yes, if her 'lived experience' isn't enough to make them see how wrong this ideology is nothing will. 🤯