Fiona Goddard, a victim of the grooming gang, has resigned from enquiry panel

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https://x.com/fionagoddarduk/status/1980169972413607999?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

Sounds like the enquiry is going well 🙄

@Lalgarh I listened to it on Spotify. It's about how these men worked and through level of protection they have even beyond their constituency.

So what's actually happening with the enquiry is in line with what has been said.

The "Romeo pimping" model deployed is actually the same method (allegedly. We have to say allegedly) used by Andrew T*te. It's also used in the US to generate income streams via Only Fans from pimped teenagers.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/onlyfans-sex-children/.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/onlyfans-sex-children-accounts/

This is a brilliant article that explains what @Lalgarhis saying: https://unherd.com/2025/06/mirpuris-and-the-problem-of-integration/

Archive version

https://archive.ph/baQBe

'I might be mistaken, but that was the vibe I was getting, how dare anyone believe that I, the mighty JP, can be told what to do.'

I think you're right. She often comes across as pretty arrogant

What you want to be looking at is the familial or social ties between the men.

Yes. It almost needs something like a deep ethnographic study. Not just "x% were Asian" but "this guy's cousin was the taxi driver, and his mother was on the council and she told her daughter who had access to the filing systems to delete these files, so that their other cousin who was a police officer could evade the investigation which they knew was coming because their neighbour had Labour party connections..."

This is honestly, for me, the end game and objective of this investigation. I think it has value as a historical inquiry which will help the victims mentally close a horrible chapter of their lives, I do.

But the reason this must not be mixed up with general abuses including those committed by white men, is because we as British society (including white British and other ethnicities which aren't connected to this e.g. Brazilians, Chinese, whatever) do not have a good mental model of how these traditional family networks specifically from these rural regions of Pakistan, Bangladesh etc are embedded into our institutions.

We have a bunch of ideas about how you shouldn't judge someone for the sins of the father. When we do nepotism checks we only ask about e.g. father/son relationships, not extended cousins. We don't understand how to apply our equalities/DEI principles in cases (e.g. in some councils) where the dominant/powerful ethnicity is non-white.

The average person on the street has a fairly good understanding of how, say, a creepy white paedophile uncle operates. We have various mechanisms to try to protect our children from them, even if they're not perfect.

In cases like this though, we say "get the council to investigate them!" which is utterly ludicrous to anyone with even a base level knowledge of the composition of the councils in question.

Our instincts about how to deal with this kind of problem are wrong, and an effective investigation is one that helps us develop new instincts to root out future cases like this.

like the ethnicity forms we have to tick at the doc/dentist

Have to ?

I have never completed one on my life.

Louise Casey brought back in as a 4th survivor quits

What a fucking shit show

And it continues

Sonia Sodha's first point in her tweet is such a no brainer. These women have been gaslit, dismissed, minimised and treated like trash for years. They absolutely should have had the final say on who was a suitable chair for the inquiry, and obviously anyone related to police or social care was a ridiculous choice

I take Jess Phillips' point that the survivors are not a hive mind, but it seems like no one even tried to involve them as a serious voice in planning this inquiry. What an absolute mess

The government want the enquiry to collapse, then it can continue kicking the can down the road.

"Yes. It almost needs something like a deep ethnographic study. Not just "x% were Asian" but "this guy's cousin was the taxi driver, and his mother was on the council and she told her daughter who had access to the filing systems to delete these files, so that their other cousin who was a police officer could evade the investigation which they knew was coming because their neighbour had Labour party connections..."

But we already know ALL this and have done for decades. The connections aren't just local, they are nationwide. Also, the links to the importing and distribution of heroin among the same people go back to the 1970s and continue to this day, in plain sight, all the way up to some very powerful people. The victims were drugged with heroin.

I think if you asked a group of people outside FWR or similar groups who've been following it for that period of time, I don't think they "know" this.

e.g. chat threads here in the main part of MN where people say things that reveal that their mental model is that the grooming gang members are a small minority and the police, council etc are all white and just a bit bored and uninterested in investigating. Not saying that's not a dynamic as well, but it's different in substance from an active cover-up for members of your own community.

At most I maybe see things like "it was the Labour party covering up for each other" (from right-wing partisans) but even that obscures the ethnic lens, which is a bit intertwined with the Labour party in some of these areas.

I think the idea was that as the charity was / is about supporting victims of abuse they would have the knowledge from doing that work as to how best include victims of exploitation to take part.

So maybe saying running it is the wrong word, but because the Government acknowledged if it was them nobody would trust them it should be someone else.

So the charity with the supposed expertise would monitor / supervise those with experience organising inquiries and say if you want equal participation and to be trusted dont behave in this way, or whatever.

But obviously whatever it was it hasn't worked if those meant to be part of setting up the inquiry weren't even told the "agreed" shortlist of potential chairs.

This is what is so mind boggling.

I can see any number of difficulties around genuine inclusion at different stages, but to fall at the first hurdle like this seem beyond comprehension.

When has Lousie Casey actuallly achieved anything?

She has made a well paid career of compiling what in most instances were the b***ing obvious, but never actually done anything.

This.

Is there not someone with the integrity that Dame Elizabeth Butler Schloss showed when she was in her prime who could take over this job?
We do not need a Starmer toadie.

Not forgetting her earlier oppositionin in June to what has now been set up:

At the start of the year, the government dismissed calls for a national inquiry, arguing it had already been examined in a seven-year inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay.

But speaking to reporters on his way to the G7 summit, which begins in Canada tomorrow, the prime minister said: "I've never said we should not look again at any issue."

He added that Baroness Casey had originally thought a new inquiry was not necessary, but she had changed her mind having looked into it in recent months.

"She's come to the view there should be a national inquiry on the basis of what she's seen," Sir Keir said.

"I've read every single word of her report, and I'm going to accept her recommendation.

"I think that's the right thing to do, on the basis of what she has put in her audit.

"I asked her to do that job, to double-check on this.

"She's done that job for me, and having read her report… I shall now implement her recommendation."

He added that it "will take a bit of time" to set up the inquiry, but added that "it will be statutory under the Inquiries Act".

This means the inquiry will be able to compel witnesses to provide evidence., external

A senior government source said the inquiry would "co-ordinate a series of targeted local investigations".

This will include new local investigations, which will take place even if local authorities don't want one.

The local investigations will have the power to compel evidence to be given and witnesses to appear.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7872pngj2qo

KS said earlier (paraphrasing) he’s saddened that survivors felt the need to resign, and if they did want to return the door was open.

The four resigned survivors have issued a joint statement, stating their terms for returning:

https://x.com/ellieannre71927/status/1981087237795098934?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

And another survivor who is less than impressed with Jess Phillips:

https://x.com/gmb/status/1980902512782614995?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

Do you know how many other survivors are still on the panel?

Jess Phillips almost lost her seat to a pro Gaza independent MP last year. She won her seats by a few hundred votes. Her constituency is 42% Pakistani Muslim. I’m sure that has NOTHING to do with her desperation to water down the enquiry.

And it got very very nasty in that campaign with activists having their car tyres slashed. Shabana Mahmood faced opposition activists telling local communities it was haram to vote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ng3j1pnpqo

This was Philips in June 2025 after the u turn on the inquiry

Yeah and after Jess was harassed during her speech she did interview the next day and did her “it’s ALL men” routine refusing to call out who ACTUALLY harassed her her entire campaign