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Shortshriftandlethal · 17/10/2025 09:06

Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 04:00

It's not the Jews, it's a political sect of the Jews called Zionists that many Jews oppose. And it has been deemed a genocide by the ICJ, ICC and the UN

A Zionist is simply anyone who lives in Israel or who has family or friends in Israel, or anyone who supports Israel's right to exist - as a homeland for the jewish people safe from the persecution they have been subject to for millennia.

This political fixation and misunderstanding is taking you to unsavoury places.

Shortshriftandlethal · 17/10/2025 09:09

Morningsleepin · 16/10/2025 21:49

I don't either

Yet your ill informed and misguided political activism is pushing you in that direction.

SionnachRuadh · 17/10/2025 12:07

Shortshriftandlethal · 17/10/2025 09:06

A Zionist is simply anyone who lives in Israel or who has family or friends in Israel, or anyone who supports Israel's right to exist - as a homeland for the jewish people safe from the persecution they have been subject to for millennia.

This political fixation and misunderstanding is taking you to unsavoury places.

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Half of the world's Jewish population lives in Israel. Almost all of the UK Jewish community have family in Israel. However queasy they feel about any given actions of the Israeli government - and they often do - that's not a bond that can be broken.

When we're told that "many" Jews reject Zionism, it seems to me that "many" is doing duty for the tiny Neturei Karta religious cult, and the small number of elderly Jewish communists who think Jeremy Corbyn is a diamond geezer.

Grammarnut · 17/10/2025 16:08

I read what she said - which is almost word for word at the salient point that Julia Long quoted. Either Rahlia Gupta is naive or she is anti-semitic. She lost my sympathy at 'Zionist agenda', because it suggessts that her agenda is anti-Zionist (anti-semitism with a left-wing face). FWIW, I think she is right about Likud and Netanyahu (though I would not use the term 'fascist' - I doubt it fits) but she ruins her point by accepting Hamas' take on the war which they started this time round without any understanding that they are a terrorist organisation, and one currently inflicting death on opponents on the streets of Gaza.
FiLiA is now a mess.

NotsolazySusan · 17/10/2025 16:50

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Shortshriftandlethal · 23/10/2025 09:13

SionnachRuadh · 17/10/2025 12:07

Half of the world's Jewish population lives in Israel. Almost all of the UK Jewish community have family in Israel. However queasy they feel about any given actions of the Israeli government - and they often do - that's not a bond that can be broken.

When we're told that "many" Jews reject Zionism, it seems to me that "many" is doing duty for the tiny Neturei Karta religious cult, and the small number of elderly Jewish communists who think Jeremy Corbyn is a diamond geezer.

Yes, those few Jews who conform and/or those who prioritise their socialist/International Socialist identity over their Jewish identity.

SionnachRuadh · 23/10/2025 09:56

Shortshriftandlethal · 23/10/2025 09:13

Yes, those few Jews who conform and/or those who prioritise their socialist/International Socialist identity over their Jewish identity.

From my experience, most left wing activist types don't actually know any Jews except for hardcore anti-Zionist left wingers, and have no concept of how unrepresentative those people are. They might even believe "many" Jews hold that position, but they're massively oversampling Alexei Sayle.

CrocsNotDocs · 23/10/2025 10:02

SionnachRuadh · 23/10/2025 09:56

From my experience, most left wing activist types don't actually know any Jews except for hardcore anti-Zionist left wingers, and have no concept of how unrepresentative those people are. They might even believe "many" Jews hold that position, but they're massively oversampling Alexei Sayle.

We have one of these in Australia called Sarah Swartz. She dines out in the left wing press as their go to Jew and her schtick is “I’m not like those other Zionist Jews”.

Completely unrepresentative of most of Australia’s Jews but absolutely feted by the progressive left.

Ifthecapefits · 23/10/2025 10:15

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RT112 · 23/10/2025 11:28

Julia Long with his/her? looks definitely should be banned from the women’s spaces.

Helleofabore · 23/10/2025 11:39

RT112 · 23/10/2025 11:28

Julia Long with his/her? looks definitely should be banned from the women’s spaces.

Is that because she says things that you disagree with?

Julia Long is a female, a long time feminist and therefore is welcome to use female single sex spaces.

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 23/10/2025 11:59

RT112 · 23/10/2025 11:28

Julia Long with his/her? looks definitely should be banned from the women’s spaces.

Excuse me? Did you forget to put your glasses on?

LaLoba · 23/10/2025 12:40

Mollyollydolly · 16/10/2025 00:23

Remain if you can name which river and sea got me 😂

ArabellaSaurus · 23/10/2025 15:31

https://www.jpr.org.uk/reports/year-after-october-7-british-jewish-views-israel-antisemitism-and-jewish-life

'About two in three British Jews (65%) identify as Zionist, up slightly compared to before October 7. 10% identify as anti-Zionist, also up slightly.'

(I have no idea of the background of JPR, so no idea which way if any the organisation leans, the stats are referenced in the downloadable report on that page, for anyone who wants to drill into them more)

'Nearly half of British Jews (46%) say that antisemitism is ‘a very big problem’ in the UK today, compared to 28% in 2018 and only 11% in 2012. In total, 83% of British define antisemitism as a problem in Britain, the highest proportion found since records began over a decade ago.'

A year after October 7: British Jewish views on Israel, antisemitism and Jewish life

https://www.jpr.org.uk/reports/year-after-october-7-british-jewish-views-israel-antisemitism-and-jewish-life

ArabellaSaurus · 23/10/2025 15:32

RT112 · 23/10/2025 11:28

Julia Long with his/her? looks definitely should be banned from the women’s spaces.

Fuck off.

SionnachRuadh · 23/10/2025 16:03

It's basically impossible to get 83% of Jews to agree on anything. A friend who used to be on the Board of Deputies says that there are 300 deputies, and that means there are 400 opinions. So that level of consensus has to be taken seriously.

The left have got their own Jews, and either don't realise or don't care how marginal they are in the Jewish community. They're only slightly more representative than that Sikh guy who joined the BNP because he had a beef with Muslims.

stomachamelon · 23/10/2025 18:09

@Morningsleepini am a Zionist. And?

HeMann · 24/10/2025 07:08

I thought Julia long was dreadful, she was totally unprepared. I felt for her as she’d just come off a train, but her thoughts weren’t organised.

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