Muslim charity run

[Thomasina79]

Has banned women and girls over the age of 12 from participating. Thoughts?

Perhaps people in this group also do park run?

The aim of the organisation is to support people from under represented communities to take part in outdoor activities.

And a desire to welcome and respect others’ differences. Which isn’t always guaranteed. Surely you can see why people who are minorities seek out places where they feel safe?

And why is there a men’s scripture group in the first place? What aims are there to make it proportionate for women to be excluded from it?

We defending sex equality, LGB equality, a country free from torture or public executions, where religion is not forced upon people, and where free speech is as abundant as practicable.

In terms of traditions we are defending our beautiful green countryside which is the food source and lungs of the country, a way of life that has been pretty universal for centuries - things you don’t have to participate in but equally should be protected and available for others - drinking alcohol (in the form of pubs and bars), local cuisine (not halal everything or relentless takeovers by ‘global’ food markets), events we consider traditional (Christmas, Easter, May Day for those who celebrate it etc - basically just prioritising these events in terms of Council funding where applicable), an understanding that any new building must be built in a style in keeping with the local area, and no translators at the beck and call of the non-English speaking public whenever they need something as basic as a GP appointment.

Public calls to prayer should be banned, and I am also in favour of keeping church bells reasonably muted and only tolling at convenient times aka not at night or right next to a hospital etc.

Our historical buildings should receive priority funding, and new places of worship should self fund using existing buildings. They should not make up more than 5% of the number of churches we have.

Essentially if you want to come to the UK and implement your culture you can do it privately and at your own expense, and it should be limited so as not to radically outweigh ours.

Apparently 85 sharia courts operating in the UK (the Mayor did not refute this number).

A million new Muslims in the country since 2011 bringing the total to approx 4 million. Thats a very fast rise.

I’d read up on this topic a bit more before you continue making so many incorrect statements.

www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/sharia-courts

I can see Muslim women on social media saying they’re are ashamed of this. A quick search on social media is all you need. Are you sure you’re not an organiser?

Exactly. Not sure a ‘white British’ runners group would get off the starting block. We should not allow misogyny to seep into any part of our culture and society. The problem being that whilst it might be said that they are surpressing the rights of Muslim women, it goes much wider than that. I see it everyday in interactions I have in my job with Muslim men. I’m a white woman but Muslim men also treat me with disdain, trying to belittle and intimidate. It’s ingrained into them from birth to treat women as second class citizens. It affects all women, not just women from their own culture. So whilst some Muslim women might accept it as part of their culture, to allow it also invites that behaviour towards all women.

I read the Jay report when it was first published. Your post has brought back the shock I felt at the time. Even now, there seems to be little political will to address the many issues it raises. How awful for you to have witnessed what you did as a child.

Our small island is a smorgasbord of multiculturalism. It’s pointless to argue against hundreds of years of history.

But they are running through a public park that they have graciously said women ( apparently including female children of 13+)are allowed in I can’t see how this will make anyone who feels threatened “safe” or is it strength in numbers?

Afghanistan 45 million
Pakistan 251 million
Iran 92 million
Iraq 47 million
Syria 26 million
Somalia 19 million
Turkey 87 million
Algeria 47 million

And that’s just the populations of a few of the majority Muslim countries. In these countries above women have either no rights or severely curtailed rights. That’s a lot of women.

Are you taking about the charity race now or the Muslim runners group?

I can't even be bothered to explain why this obviously depressing description of an atomised society coping by ignoring the multiple elephants in the room, is depressing.

So is every country in the world if you go back 500, 1000 years. Should nobody be entitled to retain heritage in any way despite the wishes of the population?

This little comment really is delightful too.

Except if they’re female over the age of 12 ?

My thought is that you're stirring it, OP. HTH.

I love the word ‘stirring’. Always used for pesky women revealing inconvenient truths.

It’s still happening. People are still ignoring it.

They tend to target Roma girls now. Many of the Roma parents are complicit.

If you dare say anything, well, you’re being racially insensitive to two cultures!

The horrors these children are put through only to come out on the other side, hardened and eventually perpetrators themselves.

We left Rotherham to live in a small country village hours away. I’d rather my kids grow up in a nice place where they simply don’t believe these things happen than to know, for an absolute fact, that they do and no one cares.

I'm talking about a different organisation

https://activeinclusionnetwork.com

The pictures show mixed groups and non-muslims are also encouraged to join.

Tolerance on whose part exactly ? Because it seems to me that tolerance at the moment is very one sided.

Apparently, the rape gangs and county lines are run in tandem. It's hard to credit that children are being used for profit just as they were in Victorian London. Very wise of you to move away from Rotherham.

I’d say 106 women either publicly flogged or stoned to death for ‘crimes’ like immoral relations or fleeing from home is 106 women too many though wouldn’t you?

That’s just one Muslim ruled country. There are some people, albeit a minority, that would like to introduce similar rules here. We need to stop those people gaining more power and influence.

KABUL, Afghanistan — Since its takeover of Afghanistan, Taliban has issued 37 stoning orders and publicly whipped 587 individuals, including 106 women, according to reports from the Taliban-run judicial system.
The Supreme Court of the Taliban has decreed these sentences, with 176 individuals charged with various allegations. Public flogging, which had ceased for two decades, was reintroduced by the Taliban on November 6, 2022.
A review of reports from the past three years by Amu reveals that between March 21, 2022, and March 21, 2024, 298 people were flogged. From March 21, 2023, to March 21, 2024, 44 people were lashed, and more than 240 have been flogged publicly in the current year so far.
Among those flogged between March 21, 2022, and March 21, 2023, were 73 women. The charges included alleged immoral relations, fleeing from home, and robbery, according to the Taliban’s Supreme Court. From March 21, 2023, to March 21, 2024, six women were among the 44 individuals flogged.

amu.tv/112543/

Apologies - mixed you up with another poster.

Hundreds of years of history, not a few short decades. Our country is 2000 plus years in the making, it's 'smorgasbord of multiculturalism' had a chance to develop into it's own unique culture organically, by the people in it, not had the changes forced onto it from on high. Our history is also, steeped in blood, 2000 plus years of conflict, of death and destruction.