Have we just found the one benefit of Brexit?

moderate · 09/10/2025 11:08

One thing I have learned from being gender critical is to "unbundle" these packages of political positions broadly sold as "left" or "right".

Back in 2016 I voted Remain and like you, I was rather disdainful of those who voted Leave.

However, when the "left" left me over sex realism, I took the opportunity to re-examine my other beliefs too.

So no, this isn't the only benefit of Brexit. As with most things, there are various pros and cons. Scratch the surface harder and you'll find plenty of ways in which the EU packages political positions together that should be unbundled.

Grammarnut · 09/10/2025 16:18

So refreshing to find someone who has thought about the issues here. I agree, the EU force-teams lots of issues that have nothing to do with each other. Trans ideology seems to be one of them which is a 'must go with' democracy etc. No idea why EU officials think this.

GCman · 09/10/2025 16:20

I voted leave and agree with the above, there's been many benefits. It's the woke press that keeps trying to push their negative opinions.

FeeFiFoFummy · 09/10/2025 16:37

GCman · 09/10/2025 16:20

I voted leave and agree with the above, there's been many benefits. It's the woke press that keeps trying to push their negative opinions.

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Other than this trans issue, what are the many benefits?

Woj · 04/08/2026 00:55

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 09/10/2025 10:51

I was just reading this article thinking we may have found the only benefit to Brexit 🤪

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/10/08/children-pick-their-gender-at-school-under-eu-proposal/

The headline "Children could pick their gender at school under EU proposal" is misleading.
Here's why:

It refers to the European Commission's LGBTIQ Equality Strategy 2026–2030, which is a policy strategy, not a binding law. The strategy says the Commission will facilitate exchanges of best practices among member states on legal gender recognition procedures based on self-determination that are "free from age restrictions." (Europäisches Parlament)
The strategy does not propose that schools allow children to choose their gender at school, nor does it establish rules for how schools must handle students' gender identity. Education policy and legal gender recognition remain primarily the responsibility of EU member states. (Faktencheck)
The headline appears to stem from media interpretations that extrapolated from the strategy's language about legal gender recognition to claim children could "pick their gender at school." The European Commission has disputed that interpretation, and independent fact-checks have concluded that the strategy neither creates such a right nor is legally binding on member states. (Faktencheck)

Verdict: Misleading. The headline overstates and mischaracterises the proposal. It conflates a non-binding EU strategy discussing legal gender recognition with a claim that children would be able to choose their gender at school. The underlying document does not say that.

Woj · 04/08/2026 21:01

Woj · 04/08/2026 00:55

The headline "Children could pick their gender at school under EU proposal" is misleading.
Here's why:

It refers to the European Commission's LGBTIQ Equality Strategy 2026–2030, which is a policy strategy, not a binding law. The strategy says the Commission will facilitate exchanges of best practices among member states on legal gender recognition procedures based on self-determination that are "free from age restrictions." (Europäisches Parlament)
The strategy does not propose that schools allow children to choose their gender at school, nor does it establish rules for how schools must handle students' gender identity. Education policy and legal gender recognition remain primarily the responsibility of EU member states. (Faktencheck)
The headline appears to stem from media interpretations that extrapolated from the strategy's language about legal gender recognition to claim children could "pick their gender at school." The European Commission has disputed that interpretation, and independent fact-checks have concluded that the strategy neither creates such a right nor is legally binding on member states. (Faktencheck)

Verdict: Misleading. The headline overstates and mischaracterises the proposal. It conflates a non-binding EU strategy discussing legal gender recognition with a claim that children would be able to choose their gender at school. The underlying document does not say that.

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Bullet 1 --> https://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/eu-lgbtiq+-equality-strategy-for-2026-20/product-details/20251024WKS06582
Bullets 2 & 3 --> Man muss ein bisschen Deutsch lesen können ;-)

Woj · 04/08/2026 21:04

GCman · 09/10/2025 16:20

I voted leave and agree with the above, there's been many benefits. It's the woke press that keeps trying to push their negative opinions.

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I suggest you use, as I do, www.ground.news to get a rounded view of what's going on!

I also await your long list of Brexit Benefits (other than "sovereignty")...

Woj · 04/08/2026 21:06

moderate · 09/10/2025 11:08

One thing I have learned from being gender critical is to "unbundle" these packages of political positions broadly sold as "left" or "right".

Back in 2016 I voted Remain and like you, I was rather disdainful of those who voted Leave.

However, when the "left" left me over sex realism, I took the opportunity to re-examine my other beliefs too.

So no, this isn't the only benefit of Brexit. As with most things, there are various pros and cons. Scratch the surface harder and you'll find plenty of ways in which the EU packages political positions together that should be unbundled.

"Left" and "Right" are inadequate terms to apply to people's opinions.

The reality of what people think is a lot more multi-dimensional!

SidewaysOtter · 04/08/2026 21:10

moderate · 09/10/2025 11:08

One thing I have learned from being gender critical is to "unbundle" these packages of political positions broadly sold as "left" or "right".

Back in 2016 I voted Remain and like you, I was rather disdainful of those who voted Leave.

However, when the "left" left me over sex realism, I took the opportunity to re-examine my other beliefs too.

So no, this isn't the only benefit of Brexit. As with most things, there are various pros and cons. Scratch the surface harder and you'll find plenty of ways in which the EU packages political positions together that should be unbundled.

I could have written every word of this. To my shame I was very angry with those around me who voted to Leave and lost a couple of friends over it. I've since learned my lesson!