Celebrity Traitors

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Apparently features Stephen Fry, which seems absolutely the right thing, given how he has already betrayed women/ gay/ lesbian rights.

Also Tom Daley - similar. Which other celebrities should go in there on these grounds? Gary Lineker? David Tennant?

Much though I love Claudia, I think the women’s rights version should be hosted by JK. And be Harry Potter themed.

Traitors? Read a lot of the Daily Mail, do you?

You don’t have to read the Mail to educate yourself about Fry’s thoughts on women, child abuse and lesbians. There’s a round-up here on The Critic - you agree with every one of his points, do you? https://thecritic.co.uk/the-cowardice-of-sir-stephen-fry/

And an old article in The Guardian about his views on women and sex: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/oct/31/stephen-fry-sex-women-relationships-attitude

Just because someone (particularly a man) has a lovely, cosy TV persona doesn’t mean all his views are lovely and cosy too. I stand by my point – Fry and other very privileged celebrities have betrayed women.

I’m not obsessed. But I view the world with feminist eyes because I am a woman. So it defines the way I see things. And I care about other women and girls and don’t want them to get hurt. I find it strange when people – particularly other women – don’t view the world through this lens.

Women are at risk from men full stop – it doesn’t matter how they identify. Proportionally, there are more people in prison who identify as trans who have been convicted of sex crimes than the cis white men you reference (although there are obviously far more of the latter in prison). Here is a reference if you want to read more about it: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/

And a lot of women on this board have been or are in precisely the situation you reference. That is why a lot women are here – because they care about other women and children. I think you need to ask yourself whether the men behind the demonisation of feminism also have those good intentions.

I think you’re right!

John is Pete’s brother, he’s a plasterer 😂

To be fair, Wossie has dipped his toe into the controversy and has been GC. Sadly, he made such a big blunder in the first episode that he’ll probably be quickly identified as a traitor.

I thought this was a fun thread about Celeb Traitors? This veer is so tedious - use another thread for that debate.

Raw onion sandwiches - white bread, butter, onion (raw, sliced, plentiful), sprinkling of salt. I first discovered these when visiting family in Ireland as a kid. They’re lovely.

@intrepidgiraffe It is just so strange to me that literally every single thing is viewed through your ‘gender critical’ lens that’s feminism you’re observing.

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You're on the feminism board.

Ooh burn

Oh no, not really

Sorry you find women’s rights tedious

Why do you hate women?

How ironic that the ‘baffled’ posters who’ve taken a wrong turn from ‘active’ complain about hating and frothing and cesspits but I only see one set of posters demonstrating those qualities.

Some people really, really don’t give a shit about the dignity and protections of women and girls do they? So depressing. 😔

Oh - yikes 😬

Racists, transphobes, misogynists - all here. It is depressing.

Absolute rubbish, post the links to any of this you've seen in FWR.

I'll wait.

Yawn 🥱

According to some posters on the thread, your idea of fun is 'transphobic', or didn't you read the comments before you plopped.

This.

It’s particularly amusing that they’re all further bumping it in Active.

Your warped worldview of coming on to a feminist board and saying those things is depressing and grossly inappropriate. And just plain wrong.

So good you quoted me twice 🤣🤣

This is not a feminist space despite being labelled as such.

It is a space full of people who seem to think that more rights for someone else means less rights for them.

It doesn’t work that way.

The justifications people here try to use to absolve themselves of responsibility is outstanding.

This is a feminist space, I imagine you’ve never been in one before. Here we centre the needs of women and girls. I’m sure that’s a novelty.

If you're advocating for the removal of women's legal rights to single sex services, which are detailed in the EQA2010 and were confirmed by the Supreme Court judgement in April, then you are absolutely lessening the rights of women in order to benefit men.

And that's definitely not feminist. More male supremacist really.

(And the 'rights aren't a pie' argument? Soooo 2018)