TRA Trolls - can we just say NO?

[BlueEyedBogWitch]

A full thread of NO’s might be more powerful than trying to reason with someone who is not interested in reason.

Just one ‘NO’ each, until they get bored and go away. Every time.

After all, it sums up our arguments very succinctly.

Ah, well rest assured you are doing an absolutely sterling job there, so please do keep it up 👌

Thankfully that isn't going to happen. In international competition all the movement is in the other direction towards strict male/female categories based on biological sex.I read today that the IOC is ending research into testosterone suppression in male athletes because there are just too many other physiological advantages they possess over females. The presence of trans-identified males in female sport was always likely to tip the pendulum against trans inclusion in the minds of the general public and so it has proved.

Who made you thread monitor, Tandora? You didn't start this one and you have no more authority to control the conversation than anyone else. Talk about arrogance...🙄

So we have trans activists that say sex exists, and trans activists that say it doesn't?

So which of those is the transphobic belief?

You know Flirts, I must admit that I am finding it a grind to work out what this poster’s posts mean as I see new context that makes me question a previous post.

I haven’t seen you post anything transphobic yet the personal attacks on you and other posters continue. Plus ca change it seems.

“However given the fairly recent influx of extreme far right posters, mainly of whom were men, who were allowed to continue posting blatantly racist and misogynistic nonsense - it’s clear MN doesn’t care.”

Can you please clarify who are the recent extreme far right posters on FWR?

They mean themselves lol. Might be time to just say no thank you.

@Helleofabore Why? You will only go on to say that they aren’t extreme far right bigots, as many of the posters on this thread were defending them and engaging in the same racism denial. The hypocrisy was astounding. You cannot claim to be a feminist while supporting and endorsing the likes of Trump and his ilk.

You cannot rationalise with such irrationality, and I certainly won’t be wasting anymore energy.

Are you ok?! Genuinely.

More smears and slurs.

Sorry? You are saying there has been a recent influx of male posters on FWR who support the far right?

I asked merely for clarification as to who you meant. I should have made clear that I was after general descriptions and not a listing. For example, the posters who have come and said x and who have been up front about being male was what I was expecting.

However, you have obviously felt entirely free to attack me for the second time today for interacting with you.

oh get a grip

you can't control anything. you can't even make sense

It seems so.

I’m not by any stretch of the imagination a trump supporter. Just to be clear. And I haven’t ever posted anything in support of anyone far right. Ever.

what day is it?

ah Wednesday

on Wednesdays thinking sex doesn't exist is transphobic, along with cabbage, Manchester United Football team and the concept of goodness

hope that helps

Seems to me this thread is showcasing the seething fury of extreme transactivists. They're enraged that women won't be quiet, won't stop pointing out the coercive nature of the demands made on women and girls, won't stop highlighting the incoherent nonsense that's presented as "evidence" for gender identity and won't stop demanding that transactivists leave children alone. Along with the glorious irony of claiming there's an influx of right wing men on FWR. It's so batshit it's funny.

Except it's not funny - it's downright dangerous with children, young people and many women being the victims.

You cannot rationalise with such irrationality, and I certainly won’t be wasting anymore energy.

Pleased to hear it. Perhaps we can now get on with discussing women's rights and concerns without all these attempts to make us include males in them.

Is anyone a Trump supporter? Or have they just agreed with him on one point. I’m certainly no fan of Trump (or Charlie Kirk as previously stated 😂).

Same as if Trump stated the world is round and we agreed (because it is), our angry Plastic pal would also accuse us all of being far right Trump supporters. That’s the calibre of counter-argument we’ve got to deal with here. Still don’t know why they give this board so much energy. It’s wild.

That’s what I’ve observed time and time again as women recount their experience. It seems to me it’s tandora who is viewing through a trans-tinted lens. Women just want a few specific spaces with no males in them.

Because it really bothers them that this board exists in the way it does.

Sort of going back to the OP, does that person (maybe had Lime in their username?) still post dubious articles and plop off?

Anyone remember the jj poster who popped in every so often, often about police topics (recording non-crime incidents on protestors etc), quite some time ago now? Wonder what happened to them - possibly got bored of not provoking tirades, just sensible pointings-out...

Didn’t you do some breathtaking DARVO to me earlier the thread? Indeed, yes.

@Tandora is perfectly right though, isn't she? Try read her post, then - and this might be harder - thinking about it. Do you really want to be on the side of people who hate indiscriminately? Really?

Women just want a few specific spaces

if this was all that was being demanded I would support it.

Hear hear. I feel exactly the same way. I can clearly see the ideology that controls many people here on MN and it's very ugly.