Kelly v Leonardo Employment Tribunal Thread 3

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Ms BM Kelly v Leonardo UK Limited Employment Tribunal – hearing Case number: 8001497/2024

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Abbreviations:
C or MK - Claimant, Maria Kelly
NC - Naomi Cunningham, barrister for C
KW - Katy Wedderburn, solicitor for C
R or L - Respondent. Leonardo UK
ST - Susanne Tanner KC, barrister for R
J - Judge
P - Panel member
GC - gender critical
GI - gender identity
AL - Andrew R Letton VP People Shared Services Leonardo - respondent witness

Tribunal Tweets coverage here

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Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5416903-kelly-v-leonardo-employment-tribunal-29th-september-10am?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5420656-kelly-v-leonardo-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

I agree. Degrees were very rare in the 70s. Not sure when teaching degrees came in for example but my mother didn’t need a degree when she trained to be a teacher.

From TT

Who does RR report to
AL - Nerys [Thomas?]

Request for 5 minutes break
Judge - all happy to come back then?

Basically making sure they have stayed off social media before giving evidence.

Witnesses shouldn't have any knowledge of what has already been said in the case, so they can't be reading tribunal tweets.

Thanks! I'm desperate for the loo!

My colleagues did, before I retired. Maybe just them. I assumed it was the modern way

Probably not sure which loo to use - or doesn't have the requisite skirt and lipstick to use the ladies' loo

Do we know what Naomi Campbell thinks, lol?

I think the judge, reminding him he was under oath, asked Andy whether he had read any text-based account of the proceedings ( presumably referring to TT) before he gave his own evidence. This would be contrary to the tribunal's directions to witnesses contained in an Operational Note which was quoted. I think his answer was no but it was very muffled.

PMSL at AL body language, brow wipe, just now

I noticed this - the J addressing AL [apparently] before he asked him qq
J Just a reminder to tell the truth.

Ooo-er!

He’s looking forward to a large g&t later.

Or, he's a man.

I always rush to the loo at the start of the interval at the theatre, partly to avoid being at the end of a long queue. DH doesn't normally bother.

Sorry, didn't mean bundles. I'm posting on the fly.

I meant emails. Like the ones KS sent out to the entire department.

Get hobbling quick. 😀

Seriously though, I hope your AB's kick in fast and you start feeling better.

You are doing an amazing job with the TT's tweets. Thank you.

Hmm…definitely oo

Well no one, including the judge, believes he hasn't heard the acronym Terf. So he's clearly lying.

How to distinguish between Naomi Campbell and Naomi Cunningham - one of them throws the book at you, the other ......

I teach a little bit, part time, not high level, in HE. Emails from international students often begin “Esteemed Professor”, which I find rather charming.

Yes, thank you for the excellent work on TTs, @MyrtleLion. It's a grand job you're doing, even without consideration of your current poorliness.

Ooh, does that mean that it's okay for her to slap him round the face with a dead fish because that's her view of the law? Can I help?

Pretentious little disgrace to the male gender!

I’d want to stretch my legs, if i were AL.

Thank you xx
Prescription hasn't been filled yet. DH should be able to collect at 1600.

That’s lovely.

It's obviously quite warm in there. People in shirtsleeves, others fanning themselves. One person mopping their brow ...

That's because AL's pants are on fire.