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Well, hello Emma Watson

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crumpet · 24/09/2025 22:11

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15130209/Harry-Potter-Emma-Watson-treasures-J-K-Rowling-trans-rights.html

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teawamutu · 25/09/2025 09:30

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Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:31

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:29

I wouldn’t go so far as saying she sounded exactly like Trump but she was extremely smug.

It's the same same vengeance be mine sentiment tho…

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 09:32

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We haven't had single irrelevant Wikipedia link posts yet, he's got some way to go.

Some people really want knobs out in the ladies'.

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:33

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:31

It's the same same vengeance be mine sentiment tho…

In what way would EW need to get vengeance against JKR?

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 09:33

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 07:41

Are you suggesting people should lie about their values as a trade off for a job?

If those values are evil and abhorrent, yes. If she believed black people didn't have the right to advocate for themselves and have their own group/spaces, would you feel the same?

Her 'values' are disgusting, despicable and abhorrent. One would think people with those 'values' would hang their heads in shame. But hating women and girls is (thankfully not as much so) 'in', so that's ok.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/09/2025 09:33

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:31

It's the same same vengeance be mine sentiment tho…

She didn't say she wanted vengeance. She said she won't forgive them. That's very different.

Butchyrestingface · 25/09/2025 09:34

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 09:06

TWAW is pretty much ubiquitous in the thespian world. I suppose you can see how it happens among people who make a living out of pretending to be something they're not. They should realise they're only pretending, though. Even when you do some gender bending in casting, like deciding to make Prospero a woman called Prospera and cast Judi Dench, you still need to know Prospero was originally written as a man and that Dench is a woman. Actors do tend to be a bit mad though.

I have a fair bit of contact with 'creative industries' types through work and concur with this view. So many actors seem as mad as a box of frogs and I struggle to imagine what job they could possibly do had thesping not come a-calling. The ones I meet invariably seem to have multiple diagnoses of ND/complex PTSD/trauma.

I recall being on a Zoom call once with a group of thesps where one declared (to rousing support from the rest) that the greatest act of violence you can ever inflict on another person is to say "Get well soon" to someone who isn't feeling well. Easter Confused🤷‍♀️

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 09:34

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:33

In what way would EW need to get vengeance against JKR?

They’re saying JKR is Trump, because both have made comments re: not forgiving.

I heard trump thinks water is wet.
Am I Trump?
Are we all Trump? 🤔

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:34

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:33

In what way would EW need to get vengeance against JKR?

Um, its the other way round. JKR was the one declaring no mercy. Remember?

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 09:34

MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/09/2025 07:42

Indeed.
This is from a man from Australia who for ....reasons.... spends hours every day on a UK feminist board lecturing women with his own distorted views of feminism, women, the UK and politics
😂😂😂

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Trust me on this, he most certainly is not from Australia. He is from America, and I am fairly certain from which state just from some google sleuthing.

TheBafflingIsGenerallyComplete · 25/09/2025 09:34

soupycustard · 25/09/2025 08:15

This. And it's yet another example of how regressive gender ideology is, that having a mental health problem is considered some kind of slur, or at least the male rights activists pretend that it is. I had thought society was moving past this kind of attitude to mental health, but of course not.
Of course it is far more clear with young, often neurodiverse, girls who trans-identify that there is poor mental health involved. And also, mental health is certainly spouted all the time as a reason why males' desire for validation is more important than female sex-based rights.
But the MRAs dont want a genuine discussion about mental health, because it's too important to their movement to be able to claim that all the, often older, often aggressive, males are just as vulnerable as the young girls.

100% agree. It’s a travesty, and in my view abuse on a large scale societal level. These youngster should get help with their mental health, not encouraged towards genital mutilation.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/09/2025 09:36

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:34

Um, its the other way round. JKR was the one declaring no mercy. Remember?

She isn't saying she wants to hunt Emma Watson down. She's saying she doesn't forgive her. And she doesn't have to.

It would be gracious of her to forgive Emma Watson if she actually apologised to her, but she hasn't, so there is no reason to, is there?

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:36

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 09:34

They’re saying JKR is Trump, because both have made comments re: not forgiving.

I heard trump thinks water is wet.
Am I Trump?
Are we all Trump? 🤔

I know. Im being facetious. It’s all comments like that deserve.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 25/09/2025 09:37

deadpan · 25/09/2025 08:52

There are three reasons why a man thinks he's a woman. Either he has a fetish, he has gender dysphoria, or he's been pushed towards thoughts that because he's gay and doesn't present as a traditional man he must therefore be female.
When I say pushed I don't say it glibly, my kids are two young adults and I've seen the onslaught of trans on the social media they use.
If you want to call all or any of that organic full your boots. No one is saying trans people shouldn't live their lives in safety, we just don't want males in females spaces. It's that simple.

This!

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:37

Howseitgoin · 25/09/2025 09:34

Um, its the other way round. JKR was the one declaring no mercy. Remember?

How can I remember something that never happened?

GoldThumb · 25/09/2025 09:37

DialSquare · 25/09/2025 09:36

I know. Im being facetious. It’s all comments like that deserve.

It’s an.. interesting stance, I’ll give ‘em that

LaurelBush · 25/09/2025 09:37

NotBadConsidering · 24/09/2025 22:38

Well, having read the article, I don’t see anything that says she has? She’s just quoted as saying hopefully people can get on if they have different views.

Oh dear. The transes won't like that. Not pure enough!

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 25/09/2025 09:38

This is good though. It shows someone can have more than one thought - more than one opinion.
That we don't need to cancel someone just because one of our many opinions opposes theirs.
More people should be allowed to say 'I believe in this... this person doesn't.. that's ok and we can still be friends!'

Ocelotfeet27 · 25/09/2025 09:39

I have to say she is clearly a spoilt self indulgent idiot irrespective of her views on trans people. Oh poor me, I can't possibly be expected to follow the law and not speed. The excuse of always being driven might excuse your first speeding penalty. Not 4. Stupid brat.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/09/2025 09:39

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 25/09/2025 09:38

This is good though. It shows someone can have more than one thought - more than one opinion.
That we don't need to cancel someone just because one of our many opinions opposes theirs.
More people should be allowed to say 'I believe in this... this person doesn't.. that's ok and we can still be friends!'

Other people have been doing exactly that for the last five years while she's been repeatedly putting the boot in.

Are we supposed to give her a cookie and a gold star for doing it now?

CameltoeParkerBowles · 25/09/2025 09:40

teawamutu · 25/09/2025 08:45

Cosseted, self-righteous idiot begins to sense that her luxury beliefs are no longer as fashionable and takes a tentative step backwards into the beginnings of a reverse ferret.

Here's Tom with the weather.

😂😂😂

ThatBlackCat · 25/09/2025 09:42

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 08:38

Watson and all the others are allowed to hold different views to JKR; they don't have to agree with her just because they played her characters.

What really pissed me off was that, as far as I can recall, none of them ever spoke out against all the deranged abuse and threats she received and still does. Did any of them ever say, "I disagree with her on this but I'm appalled by all the threats and abuse and they need to stop"?

What really pissed me off was that, as far as I can recall, none of them ever spoke out against all the deranged abuse and threats she received and still does. Did any of them ever say, "I disagree with her on this but I'm appalled by all the threats and abuse and they need to stop"?

Yes. Like a coward she said nothing. She reminds me of those cowards in a group friends with a bully who does not speak up when things go too far, but goes along with the bully. We all know if EW received rape threats and death threats, she'd be giving interviews and crying on tv about how unfair it was.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 25/09/2025 09:42

Ocelotfeet27 · 25/09/2025 09:39

I have to say she is clearly a spoilt self indulgent idiot irrespective of her views on trans people. Oh poor me, I can't possibly be expected to follow the law and not speed. The excuse of always being driven might excuse your first speeding penalty. Not 4. Stupid brat.

I mean, my child was driven everywhere for the first 17 years of his life too, because hmmm, he was a child. Yet he, and all his peers who were also driven everywhere for the first 17 years of their lives, have all managed not to get 4 speeding tickets now that they have their licenses.

ThatCyanCat · 25/09/2025 09:43

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 25/09/2025 09:39

Other people have been doing exactly that for the last five years while she's been repeatedly putting the boot in.

Are we supposed to give her a cookie and a gold star for doing it now?

She isn't even doing that. She's just finally coming to the conclusion that it might be ok for people to disagree with her.

Greyskybluesky · 25/09/2025 09:43

Ocelotfeet27 · 25/09/2025 09:39

I have to say she is clearly a spoilt self indulgent idiot irrespective of her views on trans people. Oh poor me, I can't possibly be expected to follow the law and not speed. The excuse of always being driven might excuse your first speeding penalty. Not 4. Stupid brat.

The law is the law, but it doesn't apply to meeee...

Sounds familiar

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