Sikh woman raped in apparently racially motivated attack

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Terrible. We need look out for ourselves and where possible other women, given the police seem far too unreliable and there is rising misogyny is various forms- in this case apparently aggravated by racism..

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/alleged-rape-sikh-woman-west-midlands-hate-crime

No, that's not true. It is important to recognise when another characteristic is making women extra vulnerable

. Lesbians face extra sexual harassment often bc they are by default saying 'no' which infuriates boundary-breaking men extra.

The Rotherham girls were targeted bc of race as we all know (I'd argue class played a big role in the police response too)

Disabled women are particularly at risk of sexual abuse.

I understand people are v wary of intersectionality now after the trans/woke/idpol disasters, but being aware of other characteristics does not need to be that, we don't need to throw baby out w the bathwater.

Exactly. People on this board get that lesbians need their own facilties, disabled women face particular issues, I don't see why this wouldn't apply to violence awareness too

This was a racist attack
If you read the article, while the woman was being raped, the words the attackers said were: “You don’t belong in this country, get out.”

If a man's gonna rape, he's gonna rape. But if he also happens to be a racist cunt (as well as a being a cunt that should never have been born in the first place) then he's likely to choose a victim of colour over a white woman where possible. Interestingly I've recently read an article about rapists and their "target selection". One particular convicted rapist for example said he always chose victims with long dark hair, while another preferred slick looking business women. I suppose those details may be helpful to police investigations?

Genuine question op

Do you ever sleep??

Just came here to post this. Horrific. I hope the woman has all the help and support she needs, and I hope the perpetrators are caught.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/police-manhunt-after-racially-aggravated-32462775

It would be absurd to suggest racism doesn't exist. And it certainly sounds like this was partly motivated by racism. I do wonder if misogyny was one of the criteria for hate crime, whether every rape would then be classed as a hate crime.

I don’t think I can better this.

However, I do think that other elements may be contributing as well.

The one area that slightly throws me off is the whole consent element (bear with me here).

I believe that consent can't be given after one has had a drink. So does that mean that two drunk people having sex have raped each other?

Being serious, though, I've initiated sex many times in situations where I've had a drink and the other person hasn't. Strictly speaking I wasn't able to give consent so it wasn't consensual sex. However, I absolutely knew what I was doing because two glasses of wine isn't enough to cause me to lose judgement.

I struggle with this side of it (appreciate it's a bit of a derail). In reality it's never an issue but I suspect that if I later claimed I'd not consented the guy would be in hot water.

Were any of them prosecuted as racist hate crimes? I wasn’t aware if so.

I think they should be if misogyny was on the list.

Stop embarrassing yourself. I’m cringing.

FFS the rape happened at 8.30 in the morning. I don't know why that has shocked me so much. Daylight and safety and bad people (men) being inside until much later maybe.

Goodness!

And that is the sum total of your contribution to this thread?

this is incredibly sad. Just as said as every other rape that takes place. The reason this one has been identified as a hate crime was because the woman was specifically told to go back to where she came from and she was being brutally raped

It’s awful. And does appear racially motivated.

They should have been.

Asian girls were also abused, I am not sure but I think possibly Sikh girls the abusers saw as potential victims due to being non-Muslim? So religious rather than racial prejudice, although could also be that.
Though we know there has been a lot of sexual abuse of Muslim girls too, but I think it tended to be within families rather than in a gang. Also they were scared to report.

But definitely white girls seek to have primarily been targeted.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.mwnuk.co.uk/_<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mwnuk.co.uk%2F<u>Press</u>Statement<u>Rotherham</u>Inquiry<u>116</u>resourcedetail.php&usg=AOvVaw0hQrU6SaQziYNQbsWAP6OE&ved=2ahUKEwjou5Dc6NOPAxXxUEEAHTMoGwA4ChAWegQIOxAB" rel="nofollow" target="blank">PressStatementRotherhamInquiry116resourcedetail.php&ved=2ahUKEwjou5Dc6NOPAxXxUEEAHTMoGwA4ChAWegQIOxAB&usg=AOvVaw0hQrU6SaQziYNQbsWAP6OE

https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/asian-girls-among-sex-abuse-victims-in-rotherham-report-1141029005721.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2013/sep/10/asian-girls-hidden-victims-sex-grooming-report-video

The attackers probably neither knew or cared what religion she was.

All rapes are horrible but these attackers probably got an extra kick out of the colour of her skin and knowing it would make people feel more unsafe. So yes it was a hate crime as well and should be prosecuted as such. Time to extend hate crimes to cover misogyny too.

Why the need to deny a racial element? While I also find the idea you could be a rapist and simultaneously genuinely respect any woman absurd, I can also well believe that women can be targeted on the basis of race and other characteristics. I can also believe that being targeted in this way compounds the woman’s suffering. That’s before you get into the wider effects on particular groups and society as a whole.

Recognising this in no way diminishes the fact that all rape is abhorrent violence.

I actually think this is entirely possible too.

They may very well have been racists looking for a non-white victim or it could have just been generalised sadistic behaviour targeting clearly apparent features. I'm guessing they were waiting in the park for the first lone woman. It doesn't sound like they followed her.

Hang on..I thought the law was that you can't consent if you're extremely drunk? Not if you've just had a couple of glasses.

And imo 2 drunk people having sex : that depends if one has drunk a lot more than the other and is unable to consent. If they have both drunk a bit, ofc they can still consent.

People keep moaning among Gen Z not drinking but as a Gen Z, I am glad that we'll have less of these cases, and also less drunken regretted sex. There are other ways to build relationships and have fun

Why not? OK, maybe race was incidentally not motivator but it's important to be aware of all possibilities.

This.

I think the problem is that the OP title is not what has been reported ie that a woman has been raped, which is shocking enough, but in terms of the charge the rape was "aggravated" by another crime.

in the same way as sometimes a charge of rape is aggravated by additional violence.

So not sure the point of speculating.

Of course when and if there is a court case evidence might give an indication if it was in fact "motivated" by racism.

I always find threads like this a bit strange.

ie projecting what are at this stage nothing more that what individuals are thinking.

I am so sorry this woman has suffered this act of male violence.

Maybe we should leave her in peace instead of publicly speculating about the volence she has suffered.