Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.

469 replies

DialSquare · 01/09/2025 12:11

Copied from Nitter

J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling29m
As another man who once worked with me declares himself saddened by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for handy reference. Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren’t involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?

Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?

That women should retain female-only rape crisis centres?

That men don’t belong in women’s sport?

That female prisoners shouldn’t be incarcerated with violent men and male sex offenders?

That women should remain a protected class in law, because they have sex-specific needs and issues?

That language should reflect reality rather than ideological jargon, especially in a medical context?

That women shouldn’t be harassed, persecuted or fired for refusing to pretend humans can change sex?

That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights?

That freedom of speech and belief are essential to a pluralistic democratic society?

That troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic and trauma-experienced, should be given mental health support instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments on non-existent evidence of benefit?

That gay people shouldn’t be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools, nor should they be smeared as ‘genital fetishists’ when they don’t?

That cross-dressing heterosexual male fetishists aren’t actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives piggybacking off gender identity ideology?

That said ideology, and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left’s credibility than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century?

Let me have your thoughts.

This sums up the views of the majority of posters on this board, however, we often have other posters tell us they don’t agree with us, but never what views they don’t actually agree with.

So, those of you that don’t agree with the majority view on here, what is it about the above that you don’t agree with?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
38
Charabanc · 01/09/2025 15:18

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:17

If only she, and every other pesky woman who doesn’t want creepy men in their SSS would just stop talking!! The world would be a much better place for those creepy men and they wouldn’t be so very sad, in these very sad times 🥹

Weird. Sad times.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 01/09/2025 15:19

One of the ways Patriarchy controls women is to make women responsible for society's moral compass.

It's fascinating to see it playing out on this thread with people genuinely believing that JKR is culpable for what other people might do.

Meanwhile, popular trans women thought leaders say the most atrocious things about women they disagree with and about womanhood in general, up to an including celebrating violence against women simply because they disagree politically, and are feted.

Make it make sense.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:20

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 15:09

Ok

What righs do asexuals need that someone is trying to remove?

I would be interested to know the answer to this question.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 14:56

I wonder how polite you would be in her position, towards the group who have been relentlessly defaming her, and in some case sending her rape and death threats, for the last six years?

But JKR has brought it all on herself hasn’t she? What with her OPINIONS and her FACTS. I’m surprised you don’t understand how very upsetting she is to these poor, sad men, who just simply want to completely destroy women’s rights. Won’t someone think of the poor, sad men?

DialSquare · 01/09/2025 15:24

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:23

But JKR has brought it all on herself hasn’t she? What with her OPINIONS and her FACTS. I’m surprised you don’t understand how very upsetting she is to these poor, sad men, who just simply want to completely destroy women’s rights. Won’t someone think of the poor, sad men?

.

JKR asking similar questions to what I have been asking for years on here.
OP posts:
AnSolas · 01/09/2025 15:26

ThisChicPinkRaven · 01/09/2025 14:19

That's an interesting perspective, and not one I wholly agree with.

Is a cult leader responsible for the behaviour of their cult members? Is an influencer responsible for the behaviour of their followers?

I'd suggest that most of us can agree that human beings, collectively, really aren't very bright and often simply and blindly mimic those who influence them.

If you are a die-hard fan of a person of influence then it's a fair bet whatever that person says or does is likely to influence your own opinions and, perhaps, lend legitimacy to your behaviour.
Now, I'd politely suggest that if a person who has influence over you - as JKR has over many - makes comments that are pejorative then the chances of you mirroring those in your own life are high.

For the avoidance of confusion by some of in this thread, I will say again - and for the last time - that JKR's support for women and women's right is extremely commendable. Her sneering, spiteful punching down comments against certain groups in society is not.

Edit: Emboldened the salient point as it seems some people are astoundingly adept at missing the point when it doesn't align with their opinion 🙄

Edited

So people are too stupid to think for themselves therefore do not express an opinion.

Funny how the men (and it was mainly men) who rant to defend the rights of male rapists and sex abusers and MRA and assholes to access female single sex spaces are not called cult leaders or asked to say "nice things".

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:29

"but the distraction from significantly more serious feminist issues such as endemic domestic violence, sexual violence, women's mental health issues & online misogyny to name a few."

What?

Like Lumos (including children of Ukraine, donations to homeless people, refugee organisations, anti-slavery work,
Biera's place
Volant Charitable Trust supporting women, children and young people at risk
Gingerbread
Anne Rowling Regenerative Neurology Clinic

including female lawyers out of Afghanistan

This list is just from the top of my head.

You mean she is not contributing to 'more serious feminist issues' such as those above @Howseitgoin ?

(Shall I take your tone: Fail / False / emoji / emoji / insult) or do you have an inkling of self awareness and realise just how ignorant your post really was?

Edit: Too slow and cross posted.

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 15:30

SionnachRuadh · 01/09/2025 14:21

I'm quite happy to blame her for Police Academy 6: City Under Siege, which I only recommend to those who think Police Academy 5: Assignment Miami Beach was robbed at the Oscars.

But I agree with pretty much everything she says above.

There .... is ..... a Police Academy 6 ????

How ?
Why ?

Off I go to google 🙈🙈🙈🙈

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:32

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:29

"but the distraction from significantly more serious feminist issues such as endemic domestic violence, sexual violence, women's mental health issues & online misogyny to name a few."

What?

Like Lumos (including children of Ukraine, donations to homeless people, refugee organisations, anti-slavery work,
Biera's place
Volant Charitable Trust supporting women, children and young people at risk
Gingerbread
Anne Rowling Regenerative Neurology Clinic

including female lawyers out of Afghanistan

This list is just from the top of my head.

You mean she is not contributing to 'more serious feminist issues' such as those above @Howseitgoin ?

(Shall I take your tone: Fail / False / emoji / emoji / insult) or do you have an inkling of self awareness and realise just how ignorant your post really was?

Edit: Too slow and cross posted.

Edited

But the fact that she said no to a small group of men apparently cancels out all that good work.

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:34

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:32

But the fact that she said no to a small group of men apparently cancels out all that good work.

Indeed.

The fact that she also pushes back on those male people who abuse her and other women just cancels it all out too.

I guess acknowledging that makes me a 'cult member'? As if women haven't got their own minds and can do their own research to see just what she is posting.

Charabanc · 01/09/2025 15:35

Howseitgoin · 01/09/2025 13:46

It's called a Motte & Bailey.

If JKR's 'opinions' were just limited to the above that would be a reasonable view despite them being easily managed to minimise harm. But she does as so many GC's do which is so much more via her twitter account in routinely implying trans people are dangerous delusional predatory sexual deviants with no associations to women.

When called out for this behaviour she immediately reverts to her more palatable view point as if that's all she is doing. An utterly conniving manipulative cruel fraudster who not only facilitates the political & social harms trans people are forced to face as a result of her huge reach & influence but the distraction from significantly more serious feminist issues such as endemic domestic violence, sexual violence, women's mental health issues & online misogyny to name a few.

Media focus being finite means that where one issue incessantly dominates other issues get left for dead. Perhaps that's why far right misogynistic men are so delighted to have such a distraction from male responsibilities not to mention a return to women being no more than their reproductive characteristics is a regression dream come true.

Wake up useful idiots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

significantly more serious feminist issues such as endemic domestic violence, sexual violence, women's mental health issues & online misogyny to name a few.

And do you know what dealing with all of those things requires? A fundamental recognition that women are a sex class different to men.

Are you getting it yet?

Merrymouse · 01/09/2025 15:39

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:23

But JKR has brought it all on herself hasn’t she? What with her OPINIONS and her FACTS. I’m surprised you don’t understand how very upsetting she is to these poor, sad men, who just simply want to completely destroy women’s rights. Won’t someone think of the poor, sad men?

So difficult to know which way to punch when women’s rights are being destroyed by government bodies, the NHS, the prison service.

Are they beneath JKR in the organigram of power?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:39

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:34

Indeed.

The fact that she also pushes back on those male people who abuse her and other women just cancels it all out too.

I guess acknowledging that makes me a 'cult member'? As if women haven't got their own minds and can do their own research to see just what she is posting.

Ironically her last book was about a cult, and it was exceptionally well researched.

She knows what a cult leader is, and that she isn't one.

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:39

Just adding to this.

If I were someone who was keen to censure JK Rowling for her responses to male people who abuse her, I would consider how censuring her for her responses supported her abusers.

No female person should be expected to just absorb and ignore the abuse of male people. To expect this, is continuing the abuse of the victim.

It seems that as soon as a woman has any financial power at all, they are considered open to have to live up to some people's very high bar of expected behaviour that doesn't seem to be extended to any one else.

Some people seem to assume she (and her funds) is there for their personal direction and to be the fixer of all things. I got the feeling from reading this thread as I do from all the other threads about her, some people like to think that they somehow 'own' her. That she is there to fix the world according to them.

She is held to account like no author I know.

She is expected to act like a queen or a PM and fix the world while absorbing all the abuse she gets. She is expected to be the penultimate activist while still producing entertainment for the masses and raising a family out of the lime light.

Which other person on this planet is held to this level of expectation across such a wide range of political interests?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:41

Charabanc · 01/09/2025 15:35

significantly more serious feminist issues such as endemic domestic violence, sexual violence, women's mental health issues & online misogyny to name a few.

And do you know what dealing with all of those things requires? A fundamental recognition that women are a sex class different to men.

Are you getting it yet?

Exactly this.

And the fact that mainstream "feminism" in the US - which is in fact not feminism at all - does not recognise the female sex as a distinct group of people worthy of recognition in law might go some way towards explaining why their reproductive rights are constantly being rolled back and they're the only women in the developed world without the right to paid maternity leave.

But hey, according to them JK Rowling is not a feminist.

GoldenFireplace · 01/09/2025 15:41

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:20

I would be interested to know the answer to this question.

Speaking as someone who would fall under the current "asexual umbrella" to a gold standard😇, as in I'm well into my 40s and never had sexual relations with anyone, I can confirm that there isn't a single right that I'm missing nor do I need any more than any other woman.

Nor does it require an international awareness day which is what JKR posted about on X. I agreed with her and all of her other comments on asexuality. It's just people wanting their own flag and an identity within the current zeitgeist. It would be a lot better if people realised that, other perhaps your immediate family and close friends, nearly everyone else you come into contact with neither care nor want to know about your sexual history.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:43

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:39

Just adding to this.

If I were someone who was keen to censure JK Rowling for her responses to male people who abuse her, I would consider how censuring her for her responses supported her abusers.

No female person should be expected to just absorb and ignore the abuse of male people. To expect this, is continuing the abuse of the victim.

It seems that as soon as a woman has any financial power at all, they are considered open to have to live up to some people's very high bar of expected behaviour that doesn't seem to be extended to any one else.

Some people seem to assume she (and her funds) is there for their personal direction and to be the fixer of all things. I got the feeling from reading this thread as I do from all the other threads about her, some people like to think that they somehow 'own' her. That she is there to fix the world according to them.

She is held to account like no author I know.

She is expected to act like a queen or a PM and fix the world while absorbing all the abuse she gets. She is expected to be the penultimate activist while still producing entertainment for the masses and raising a family out of the lime light.

Which other person on this planet is held to this level of expectation across such a wide range of political interests?

The reality is that there is no way in which she could express the opinion that female people deserve to exist in law and have some sex based rights which are not conditional on how trans identifying men claim to feel about themselves which would be acceptable to these people.

AnSolas · 01/09/2025 15:45

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:03

If only there was a workable definition of "genuine trans".

The idea of ''not sticking ones penis where ones penis is not welcome' creates a whole lot of problems.
🤷‍♀️

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:45

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:34

Indeed.

The fact that she also pushes back on those male people who abuse her and other women just cancels it all out too.

I guess acknowledging that makes me a 'cult member'? As if women haven't got their own minds and can do their own research to see just what she is posting.

How would you know you’re a cult member though?

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:47

"Perhaps that's why far right misogynistic men are so delighted to have such a distraction from male responsibilities not to mention a return to women being no more than their reproductive characteristics is a regression dream come true."

Of course, it is not feminists OR J K Rowling who is 'return(ing) women [to] being no more than their reproductive characteristics."

This is just another falsehood.

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:48

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:45

How would you know you’re a cult member though?

Would I have a membership card? A special uniform? A special handshake?

Merrymouse · 01/09/2025 15:49

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:45

How would you know you’re a cult member though?

How many formats of the Hallmarked Man do you have on pre-order?

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:51

Helleofabore · 01/09/2025 15:48

Would I have a membership card? A special uniform? A special handshake?

You mean you don’t already have them?! 👀😳

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 01/09/2025 15:52

Merrymouse · 01/09/2025 15:49

How many formats of the Hallmarked Man do you have on pre-order?

Edited
Puppy Bee GIF by 11 bit studios

48,359 I’ll go to any lengths to prove myself to our cult leader. Baa baa 🐑

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2025 15:54

Merrymouse · 01/09/2025 15:49

How many formats of the Hallmarked Man do you have on pre-order?

Edited

Only the one, am I not culting hard enough?