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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well

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CSIRCP · 28/08/2025 14:32

This post will likely be a little too long for most, but if you can spare the time and have a cuppa handy let's sit down and have a chat, shall we?

Firstly, let’s stop calling this a debate. It’s not. This isn’t two sets of ideas clashing. This is one woman’s fear and confusion being weaponized against an entire community.

What J.K. Rowling has done is not just share an opinion. She’s poisoned the well. And that poison is spreading through politics, education, the media, and even the courts.

At the beginning, it might have looked like a tweet. Then a blog. But what she wrote in that essay was revealing: “If I’d been born thirty years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge.”
That’s not neutral. That’s projection. It was a confession, repackaged as concern. She projected her own dysphoria and personal battles onto the entire trans community and used it as the foundation for a movement built on suspicion and fear.

She said she cared about women’s rights. Then aligned herself with those who believe all trans women are predators.
She liked racist and Islamophobic tweets. She repeated antisemitic tropes. She cast activists as violent men in dresses. She accused anyone who challenged her of misogyny while branding herself the face of feminism.
All the while she built up a devoted audience that now includes some of the most extreme anti-trans voices in Britain and beyond.

This “gender critical” movement is not about safety, and it’s certainly not about truth. It’s about control.
Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (Posie Parker), one of Rowling’s ideological allies, has welcomed neo-Nazis to her rallies. Actual Nazis. The kind of people Rowling once wrote villains about.
In one case, people connected to this movement were linked to the satanic terror group 764 — a group that has influenced teen suicides and violent attacks in UK schools. Let that sink in. This is who she’s empowering.

She didn’t just turn away when that started. She doubled down. She gave this movement a gloss of legitimacy. She used her fame to funnel people toward disinformation, fear, and cruelty—and dressed it all up as feminism. But it isn’t feminism when it excludes, vilifies, and harms other women. Especially trans women. Especially intersex people. Especially anyone who doesn’t fit into the narrow fantasy of who is acceptable.

Rowling’s language now echoes in government documents. Her phrases like “gender ideology” have been lifted from far right sources, including the Vatican and authoritarian regimes, and mainstreamed into British law. Her influence helped set the stage for the UK Supreme Court to redefine the word “woman” based on sex assigned at birth, stripping rights from trans and intersex people under the Equality Act. That’s what happens when the well is poisoned. People stop thinking. They start reacting.

Meanwhile, her cult chant her slogans as though they are scientific fact. But science says otherwise. Peer-reviewed studies show that trans people’s brain structures do not align with their sex assigned at birth. They show that gender identity forms in the womb, shaped by hormones and biology not ideology. Large-scale DNA studies have found gene variants linked to gender incongruence. And intersex people exist. That is biological fact. Not one of these truths can be erased by Rowling’s fiction.

What makes this so dangerous is how calm it all sounds. Rowling doesn’t scream. She whispers. She calls it “concern.” She says she’s “just asking questions.”
But it’s never neutral to question someone’s right to exist. It’s not a debate when one side is simply trying to live and the other is trying to strip away their legal recognition and healthcare.

This isn’t just a disagreement. This is a slow campaign of erasure, led by someone with a global platform and millions in the bank.

She’s not some deluded soul from MN; she’s a multi-millionaire author whose words shape global policy. She’s not being silenced. She’s being echoed by judges, by pundits, by politicians trying to climb the ladder by stepping on the backs of trans, non-binary, and intersex people.

And let’s not pretend it stops there. Her influence has allowed people to feel safe expressing open homophobia, biphobia, and hatred toward anyone who challenges gender norms. Some of the same people aligned with her have mocked survivors, denied racism, and claimed slavery was “fine” if it was “kind.”
This is not a group grounded in empathy. It’s a movement that thrives on exclusion and resentment. Some of them now openly identify as neo Nazis. That’s where we are.

So next time someone says “she’s just worried” or “she’s not anti-trans” or “can’t we just disagree,” consider these words. Show them what poison looks like. Not just hateful speech but the deliberate seeding of doubt, division, and cruelty, all wrapped in a soft voice and a smug smile. J.K. Rowling didn’t protect anyone. She infected people. And when she’s gone, her legacy won’t be literature it will be the damage she left behind.

You don’t need to cancel her. You just need to see her clearly.
And if you blindly follow Rowling and her ideas then you need to reflect on what you’re really endorsing.

Because ignorance is not an excuse. Not anymore.

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Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 17:00

SionnachRuadh · 28/08/2025 16:53

When Danish doctors were forcibly fitting IUDs in indigenous women in Greenland, how did they know they were women?

I'm fairly sure they weren't asking for pronouns.

Could it be that biological sex exists and sometimes it matters? And even hyggelig Nordic social democracy hasn't been able to abolish it?

I always say that nobody asks a baby girl her gender before they perform FGM. Yet they still know she’s a girl.

I wonder how. Wracking my brains I am babes

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 17:01

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 16:54

In Norway transwomen are classed as women and transmen as men.

you did know this right?

What’s a woman?

Whats a man?

Come on babes, you can do this - you can give an answer!

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:02

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ArabellaScott · 28/08/2025 17:03

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

No. Women (females) are the sex whose development is formed around the ability to make large gametes (ova).

Some women can't get pregnant.
Only women can get pregnant.

This is basic logic, Sammy.

Also: see image.

JKR Didn’t Have an Opinion. She Poisoned the Well
ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 17:03

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 16:58

Yes some women can give birth but not all unfortunately including some of those born women at birth

Women are adult females, nobody was born a woman (except, I suspect, Theresa May, she was deffo born aged 52).

Do you think that women who can’t give birth are men?

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 17:03

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 16:58

‘Suspect’

means you do not know. That’s fine to admit that

Who. Are. You. Talking. To

nutmeg7 · 28/08/2025 17:03

Merrymouse · 28/08/2025 16:49

You do know which people have the babies don't you?

Well, Sammy thinks humans can change sex, so it's possible they don't understand which sex gives birth...?

It's part of the problem with confusing male and females being of equal value and worth in society, and pretending there are no actual material real differences between them.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/08/2025 17:04

CassOle · 28/08/2025 16:59

Sammy, who are you relying to?

We know that some women (the actual female ones) are infertile. No one has claimed otherwise. That doesn't stop infertile women from being female, or make them men.

It certainly does not change a male person who identifies as a 'woman' into a biological female.

Infertile women/childless women are not your ‘gotcha’, @Sammybabes16. @CassOle has clearly answered your point.

But the only humans who can give birth are biological females.

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 28/08/2025 17:05

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

I'm infertile and you can fuck RIGHT off using it as a fucking weapon to cheerlead men into women's spaces

im infertile because my female biology doesn't work properly not because im a man

It's only silly little TRA cheerleaders weaponise it on behalf of men

SionnachRuadh · 28/08/2025 17:05

I mean lots of us read comic books as kids and wished we could have cool superpowers like invisibility or time travel or singing like Neil Sedaka.

And then we grew up.

With no disrespect to the good people of Norway, I'm fairly sure I would have heard about it if they had developed the ability to reproduce asexually.

So even in the icy wastes of the frozen north, there are times when biological sex matters.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 28/08/2025 17:05

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

Nobody thinks this. Except maybe you.

But no men can give birth. Thats not the same as saying “those who can’t give birth aren’t women”. The definition of a woman is not “non man”. Do you understand?

BTW, what is a woman? What is gender?

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2025 17:05

nutmeg7 · 28/08/2025 17:03

Well, Sammy thinks humans can change sex, so it's possible they don't understand which sex gives birth...?

It's part of the problem with confusing male and females being of equal value and worth in society, and pretending there are no actual material real differences between them.

Yes. Genderism relied on a basic knowledge of sex that was to be understood, but never ever spoken. Unfortunately, genderists taught the next generation that it was/is literally true that sex and gender are interchangeable, that there are hundreds of genders, and therefore hundreds of sexes, that its possible to change sex, etc.

There are younger people who have actually grown up being told this in school. They genuinely do not understand how babies are made. We have been warning about more teenage pregnancies because of this.

Merrymouse · 28/08/2025 17:06

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

No a woman who suffers from infertility is a woman who suffers from infertility, and in the UK her diagnosis and treatment will be sex specific.

I assume that in Norway they just let everyone have a go at producing sperm and then they have a good old root around to find some eggs and then they draw lots to see who gets first go at IVF.

CassOle · 28/08/2025 17:06

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 17:00

Only some women born women at birth can give birth.

do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?

Interesting opinion which I disagree with

"do your definition of a woman then are only those that can give birth?"

No. No one has said that. Are you just making yet more crap up?

Women are adult, human females (whether they are fertile or not).

nutmeg7 · 28/08/2025 17:06

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 16:58

Yes some women can give birth but not all unfortunately including some of those born women at birth

No-one is born as a woman. As a baby girl, yes. As a baby human FEMALE.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/08/2025 17:06

I wish I thought @Sammybabes16 will have a nanosecond of guilt about weaponising your pain, @Theswiveleyeballsinthesky, but I’m not holding my breath.

Greyskybluesky · 28/08/2025 17:06

Are Sammy's posts getting deleted because they are controversial or because they aren't readable?

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2025 17:07

I assume its because Sammy is insulting people. I don't actually mind that, Sammy. I just wish you'd use your brain a bit.

Bannedontherun · 28/08/2025 17:08

Have i woken up on reddit

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/08/2025 17:09

I think it’s “bring your Reddit to work day” on MN today

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2025 17:09

Norwegian Wouldn't.

NeverOneBiscuit · 28/08/2025 17:09

Sammybabes16 · 28/08/2025 15:31

I’m not from Scotland so I do not know those details. I lived in Norway for many years where the have self ID. It really isn’t an issue and it had not affected our rights as women at all. Norway has been voted by the UN many times as the best country for women’s rights in the world. That’s what’s important to me not what someone wears or looks like or which bathroom they use.

Thats irrational

‘I’m not a vet, but I know what a dog is.’

🤣

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 28/08/2025 17:10

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/08/2025 17:06

I wish I thought @Sammybabes16 will have a nanosecond of guilt about weaponising your pain, @Theswiveleyeballsinthesky, but I’m not holding my breath.

Thank you xx

They won't because TRA never do. They've been trying to use infertility as a gotcha for years. I think they think everyone on mumsnet is a mum (big mistake) and also that they're like their actual mum (even bigger mistake) so we'll tolerate epic levels of nonsense

oddly enough not once has a TRA tried to argue my point either....

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