maybe we're all deluded in some way - wouldn't surprise me with both our countrys in the states their in right now
Yikes, honey, maybe if you're going to call Mumsnet users total imbeciles you might want to check your spelling and grammar before hitting post. You wouldn't want us to draw any conclusions about the state of the education system in America now, would you?
And no, I have not just described Mumsnet.
Mumsnet is a site for women of all ages, but heavily skewed towards British women who have had at least one child. There are literally millions of us.
This means:
- We understand our own political system much better than you do. That means we understand that a woman who has donated millions of pounds to the Labour Party, elects to remain fiscally domiciled in the UK and pay tax on her vast income in full without using any avoidance schemes, campaigned against Scottish independence and for the UK to remain in the European Union, has donated over 200 million to various charitable causes and has consistently championed the rights of women, children, gay people, people from minority ethnicities and religions and people with disabilities, is not "far right". We also understand that our political right is still to the left of your political left.
- We have lived experience of pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum and, in many cases, the menopause, and we understand that no male person has ever had nor ever will have these experiences. Many of us have experienced discrimination in employment and the workplace due to the motherhood penalty, or the reality of becoming a single mother who is the resident parent to her small children and discovering that the odds are entirely stacked against her, being unable to move to a different part of the country or take a better job with longer hours if her children's father will not cooperate, but also being unable to force him to pay his fair share towards the cost of raising his children. We have experienced miscarriages, stillbirths, birth injuries, and so much more. And so when we are told that this man is now a woman because that is how he identifies, and that because he is "living as a woman" we must welcome him into our toilets, changing rooms and miscarriage support groups, our instinctive reaction is not, "Yeah, sounds legit", but "In what possible way does he imagine he is living as a woman?"
- Most of us were safely through the vulnerable, impressionable teenage and young adult years before all this gender identity nonsense came along from America, which is why we haven't fallen for it hook, line and sinker. We weren't born yesterday.
- Some of us have children born at just the wrong moment, who are incredibly vulnerable to it. We have seen our children become consumed by it, we've seen the social contagion ripping through their schools like wildfire and we are alarmed by it. We've been gaslit and treated like bigots for objecting to boys sharing changing rooms with our daughters at school or sleeping accommodation with them on school trips or at Guide camp. Never mind that there should not even be any boys at Guide camp. So yes, those of us who are mothers to children who have fallen prey to this ideology have a lot of skin in the game. And those of us with younger children are watching, informing ourselves, praying that the craze will have burned itself out by the time our children are older, and preparing ourselves for what to do if it hasn't.
So yes, completely unsurprisingly, you will encounter a healthy dose of scepticism towards this gender identity shit on Mumsnet.
But it is not an echo chamber. Because you are here. And other people who also buy into all this shit are here. People who spend their days on here posting about how bigoted we all are for not wanting any man to be able to self ID into our spaces and sports, who openly admit that a certain number of women and girls being harmed by trans identifying males is acceptable collateral damage for those men being allowed to have what they want, without ever specifying what they think that number should be. And trans people are here. Some of them are respectful, some of them less so.
None of you are banned. None of you have been booted off the site for expressing a different opinion. Because we don't feel threatened by your opinions.