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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If I lose this case, councils can shut women’s spaces at will

87 replies

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 17:29

I’m the founder of L Community, a women-only lesbian network. Earlier this year I applied to convert a disused council-controlled railway arch into a female-only lesbian venue. It met every legal test under Schedule 3 of the Equality Act 2010 – same-sex only, necessary for privacy and dignity, no mixed-sex access.

For the application, I identified specific arches that would be suitable, but made clear I would take any appropriate building if an arch was not possible. An arch is simply the lowest baseline in terms of cost and fit-out. Southwark Council still refused. They’ve given arches to LGBTQ+ groups, but in my case said they owned none – even though their own asset register lists hundreds. They also refused to carry out the Equality Impact Assessment they are legally required to do.

I’ve now exhausted their complaints process and have lawyers taking this forward. We are preparing for a judicial review of their decision, which would be the first case of its kind. If it succeeds, it will set a binding precedent forcing every local authority in the UK to apply Schedule 3 equally for women-only spaces.

Has anyone else here seen their own council refuse a lawful single-sex space? What happened, and how was it handled?

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deadpan · 14/08/2025 18:12

I can't offer any info, because I haven't been in this situation but I wish you tonnes of luck 🤞🏼

Grammarnut · 14/08/2025 18:19

Bumping. I don't see how Southwark can get away with this after the SC judgement, which specifically listed Lesbians as among those most affected by 'legal sex'.

moto748e · 14/08/2025 18:24

Grammarnut · 14/08/2025 18:19

Bumping. I don't see how Southwark can get away with this after the SC judgement, which specifically listed Lesbians as among those most affected by 'legal sex'.

Neither do I. Sounds dead-set illegal by the council to me.

ginasevern · 14/08/2025 18:33

No advice but wish you lots of luck.

OneWildandWonderfulLife · 14/08/2025 18:37

Have you set up a funding site OP? I know you can’t link to it here, but some hints to the wording and we could do some gardening for you.
I would love Southwark to be told to fall into line.

TheAutumnCrow · 14/08/2025 18:42

OneWildandWonderfulLife · 14/08/2025 18:37

Have you set up a funding site OP? I know you can’t link to it here, but some hints to the wording and we could do some gardening for you.
I would love Southwark to be told to fall into line.

And link to JKR’s women’s fund. (Although maybe you are already cognisant and nuff
said.)

(But I’d like to chip in anyway.)

Lowerback · 14/08/2025 18:45

No advice but good for you.

Igmum · 14/08/2025 19:04

Also bumping and happy to plant a few carrots should you require fresh veg 🥕🥕🥕

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:04

deadpan · 14/08/2025 18:12

I can't offer any info, because I haven't been in this situation but I wish you tonnes of luck 🤞🏼

Thank you!

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:10

Grammarnut · 14/08/2025 18:19

Bumping. I don't see how Southwark can get away with this after the SC judgement, which specifically listed Lesbians as among those most affected by 'legal sex'.

Exactly – the SC judgment should make this impossible to ignore. If you want more on the angle Southwark have taken, try googling ‘Jenny Watson Southwark’ and you’ll find some background.

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:12

moto748e · 14/08/2025 18:24

Neither do I. Sounds dead-set illegal by the council to me.

Yes, it’s hard to see how this squares with the law. If you want to see the full case and documents, try Googling 'Jenny Watson Southwark' – some info should come up.

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:17

OneWildandWonderfulLife · 14/08/2025 18:37

Have you set up a funding site OP? I know you can’t link to it here, but some hints to the wording and we could do some gardening for you.
I would love Southwark to be told to fall into line.

Thank you, really appreciate it. I have – if you Google 'Jenny Watson Southwark' you’ll see a few links, including the funding page and our first legal statement.

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LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:19

ginasevern · 14/08/2025 18:33

No advice but wish you lots of luck.

Thank you!

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Feelingleftoutagain · 14/08/2025 19:19

I have no advice but wish you all the luck in the world, could a petition help? I would sign straight away!

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:30

Igmum · 14/08/2025 19:04

Also bumping and happy to plant a few carrots should you require fresh veg 🥕🥕🥕

That’s really kind of you – thank you. If you Google ‘Jenny Watson Southwark’, the details should come up.

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titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

PlanetJanette · 14/08/2025 19:38

This is all a bit confused.

Did you request an arch owned by the Council, or an arch controlled (you say…) by the Council?

Your explanation here is all about why you consider the arches to be controlled by the council rather than owned by it.

GarlicLitre · 14/08/2025 19:38

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

Link? My AS threw nothing up. Jenny's mentioned in a few threads as showing courage and initiative on behalf of lesbians. There were also a couple of Dark Hints about her, with no substantiation, that look like a low-key effort at reputation smearing. This couldn't be what you're trying to do, could it?

I didn't read all 1,052 results. Feel free to double-check:
https://www.mumsnet.com/search/advanced#/?query=Jenny+Watson&type=all&topics=Feminism%253A%2520chat%252CFeminism%253A%2520Sex%2520and%2520gender%2520discussions&page=1&sort=_search

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Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:40

As with all poster’s causes, we should all do our own research on who we donate money to. And not just Advanced search on MN.

NewmummyJ · 14/08/2025 19:40

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

Came to say the same, neither funding links work.
What world do we actually live in where lesbians have to campaign to have women only dating events. Like seriously this is pure insanity.

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:41

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:29

A poster on earlier thread accused OP of complaining to the Charity Commission about LGBA. Would you like to address that, Jenny? @LCommunity

Yes – but only after exhausting every route to resolve it directly with LGB Alliance. It concerns the leaking of my medical data and other safeguarding breaches. I made it clear that if it wasn’t removed, I’d have no choice but to escalate.

The Charity Commission opened a case in one working day. Over 90% of complaints fail triage, and fewer than 1% are opened that quickly. They’ve already started asking about police matters, which speaks for itself.

It was important to get this resolved now, given I’m legally escalating with Southwark Council.

This is entirely separate from the Southwark case.

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MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:44

I just thought MNetters should know this before gardening

LCommunity · 14/08/2025 19:45

titchy · 14/08/2025 19:37

Your CJ fundraiser linked to doesn’t work…

Thanks for pointing that out, I've just fixed it.

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Helleofabore · 14/08/2025 19:45

MurkyWeather · 14/08/2025 19:44

I just thought MNetters should know this before gardening

And about previous fund raising.