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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Misinformation correction: M&S Staff

929 replies

BeeSourianteAgain · 08/08/2025 14:03

M&S have responded to people's enquiries, here's one:

https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f

As expected the staff member was just doing their job, something that happens thousands of times a day in shops all over the country.

As per normal, the trans panic was manufactured.

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

Bluesky

https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f

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Beowulfa · 08/08/2025 14:07

When you say M&S have responded, do you mean an official press release from their HQ? I need a Bluesky sign-in to read your link, but it doesn't look to be a corporate M&S account.

Poddingtonpeace · 08/08/2025 14:10

Just doing your job when you are a man being paid to help girls find the right bra suggests your job should have been protected under article 7.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/08/2025 14:10

So why did M&S apologise in the first place? If there had been the slightest doubt, they would have denied it, and probably banned the mother and daughter for life.

Just doing my job, just following orders…..

Greyskybluesky · 08/08/2025 14:16

If you want to fight your corner OP, maybe make sure people can actually read what you post?

myplace · 08/08/2025 14:18

A screenshot would help.

There’s been no disinformation.

A male staff member approached a solo teen girl in the lingerie department, offering to help.

There doesn’t need to be any exaggeration. That information is enough. Red flag. Training needed. Men do not approach underage girls in the lingerie department.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/08/2025 14:35

BeeSourianteAgain · 08/08/2025 14:03

M&S have responded to people's enquiries, here's one:

https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f

As expected the staff member was just doing their job, something that happens thousands of times a day in shops all over the country.

As per normal, the trans panic was manufactured.

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

Thats a hidden message, non public

It's not M&S making the announcement

M&S apologised - so it sounds pretty legit to everyone else.

If you have more concrete evidence we'd love to hear it

Reportedex · 08/08/2025 14:37

BeeSourianteAgain · 08/08/2025 14:03

M&S have responded to people's enquiries, here's one:

https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f

As expected the staff member was just doing their job, something that happens thousands of times a day in shops all over the country.

As per normal, the trans panic was manufactured.

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

I can’t see what it says op. I don’t have a blue sky account and I don’t want one.

Any chance you might be able to supply a screenshot?

Chersfrozenface · 08/08/2025 14:52

The account in the OP is @dpdormouse.bsky.social

On its website M&S has links for Facebook, X, Pinterest and Instagram accounts. There is no link to a Bluesky account.
https://www.marksandspencer.com/

Datun · 08/08/2025 14:52

I don't know what you're reading OP, but this is what we all read.

Marks & Spencer has apologised to a mother for causing her teenage daughter “distress” after she was asked if she needed help by a transgender employee in its bra section.
The retailer said it was “truly sorry”

Helleofabore · 08/08/2025 15:04

If M&S have clarified, why isn’t it on twitter from M&S?

Is this just a weak attempt to get traffic to someone’s blue sky account?

If you want to engage, post the announcement. Otherwise, you are spreading the very misinformation you claim to be clearing up.

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 08/08/2025 15:05

Helleofabore · 08/08/2025 15:04

If M&S have clarified, why isn’t it on twitter from M&S?

Is this just a weak attempt to get traffic to someone’s blue sky account?

If you want to engage, post the announcement. Otherwise, you are spreading the very misinformation you claim to be clearing up.

Do we expect anything else from this poster? All I’ve ever read from them is deflection, misinformation and misogyny.

Helleofabore · 08/08/2025 15:08

Either way, the OP again shows not only that they have no understanding of safeguarding children. But also no fucking understanding of what the experience of being female is.

Well done again OP! Keep going. Your posts shine a beacon on the misogyny that is inherent to a group of male people who claim to be women and girls because they have a particular philosophical belief that doesn’t reflect material reality at all.

Helleofabore · 08/08/2025 15:09

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 08/08/2025 15:05

Do we expect anything else from this poster? All I’ve ever read from them is deflection, misinformation and misogyny.

indeed.

AyeDeadOn · 08/08/2025 15:09

Sorry I got banned from bluesky so cant see this

SadSadTimes · 08/08/2025 15:17

Nobody can read it so literally "nothing to see here".

CassOle · 08/08/2025 15:19

Is Bee doing a plop and run again?

BTW: Bingo!

ghostyslovesheets · 08/08/2025 15:21

Either way, the OP again shows not only that they have no understanding of safeguarding children. But also no fucking understanding of what the experience of being female is

nails it 🙌

RedToothBrush · 08/08/2025 15:23

You know when you get phishing emails, do you bother to check whether the account is from amazon or imanobviousscammer.co.uk?

M&S have an official account. Why they would put on a press release on a random account on bluesky somewhat escapes me.

What this seems to have come from (and I can't find an image that has the whole message) is this:

The points of concern STILL remain anyway.

Those points, in case you actually care are:
Where does a conversation go after "can i help you?" in the middle of the lingerie department?
Is it appropriate for a male employee to do this to a teenage girl in the middle of the lingerie department?
Do M&S have an adequate safeguarding policy?

M&S may frame this as 'just doing job', however if they fail to have an adequate safeguarding and staff training policy, their PR and complaints department STILL might not be grasping why women are so concerned and why this REMAINS an inadequate response. Even if it is a legitimate one.

As it goes the mother feels M&S response has been inadequate and has emails saying to the contrary to what M&S have said publicly.

So there is STILL an issue. One that M&S have STILL failed to address to all their other customers.

Stop spreading misinformation that this is a non-incident. There are still questions that M&S need to adequately answer EVEN IF THEY ARE SATISFIED THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM BECAUSE PUBLIC TRUST HAS GONE DUE TO REPEATED ISSUES ON THIS SUBJECT FOR THE COMPANY.

HTH

Misinformation correction: M&S Staff
RedToothBrush · 08/08/2025 15:25

Anyone trying to undermine safeguarding principles on a parenting forum = RED FLAG.

RoyalCorgi · 08/08/2025 15:26

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

Nobody cares, Bee. Nobody cares. HTH.

Helleofabore · 08/08/2025 15:31

Is that the thing that is supposed to be ‘correcting’ misinformation? An email that doesn’t address the safeguarding failures of a male person approaching a female teenager in a bra department?

Fuck! That really does show the ineptitude of the OP to understand the actual issue rather than the completely superficial issue they think is the concern.

Again, great posting there OP! That beacon is shining on misogyny and safeguarding red flags very brightly through your posts.

NotAtMyAge · 08/08/2025 15:46

BeeSourianteAgain · 08/08/2025 14:03

M&S have responded to people's enquiries, here's one:

https://bsky.app/profile/dpdormouse.bsky.social/post/3lvuzitrplc2f

As expected the staff member was just doing their job, something that happens thousands of times a day in shops all over the country.

As per normal, the trans panic was manufactured.

I fully expect all the GCs and media pundits who were pushing all sorts of hate to apologise, but as a person on their second LGBTQ moral panic I know very well how it goes.

Not much point in including a link which demands I log into a social medium I'm not a member of. 🙄

ByTealFish · 08/08/2025 15:50

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at request of the OP.

storminabuttercup · 08/08/2025 15:52

So do the male employees in the grocery dept offer women in the toiletry aisle help choosing sanitary ware?

nope because it would be highly inappropriate as is this

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/08/2025 15:53

Sorry to break it to you, but most “trans women” are very obviously male @ByTealFish