Do we allow Sharia law in this country?

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I thought we all had to abide by British Law-wtf is going on? This is bad for women...surely this isn't true
https://x.com/benhabib6/status/1949438058723528730

If Sex Matters asked them to advertise a role then yes they would. But I suspect you may already know the answer to that. You must be just as capable of reading as I am:
https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/employer

I have included the link for registering with them as an employer so that you can get on with it and spend your time productively instead of spreading faux concern.

Do Manchester Community Centre recieve no government funding?

Surely you know the answer to that since you claimed public funding was funding this job.

Or did you make that claim without a scintilla of evidence that it was true?

Interesting it asks for a degree in Sharia law but only familiarity with uk law.

This is a Faith role and should not be funded by the State it should be Faith funded not by the LA?

Eg The job by CASN is Catholic church funded
https://www.csan.org.uk/

Company:
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY CENTRE

Pulled up this web page:
https://manchestercommunitycentral.org/who-we-are/funders

But this looks like them with no employees and not much money
https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/5169129/charity-overview?_uk_gov_ccew_onereg_charitydetails_web_portlet_CharityDetailsPortlet_organisationNumber=5169129

Summary
ESSENTIAL RESPONSIBILITIES

• Conduct interviews with individuals and families to assess and review their
requirements.
• Provide information and support.
• Liaise with, and make referrals to the right consultant.
• Provide all admin and secretarial work for Manchester Shariah Council (MSC)
• Maintain accurate records and handle all bookings for all consultants and
Manchester Shariah Council members.
• Plan, manage, organise and oversee all MSC social and Shariah services and
activities on a day to day basis.

ESSENTIAL SKILLS

• Active listening: This entails listening, paying attention to and recording what
clients tell you while demonstrating this through appropriate body language
and responses.
• Boundary setting: The nature of the work means it is easy to get emotionally
involved in certain cases. Setting boundaries ensures that professional lines
are not crossed and keeps you focused on the end goal.
• Critical and creative thinking: Being able to think on your feet enables you to
make important decisions and referral complex problems based on your
knowledge, understanding and analysis of a case.
• Communication: The job entails communication with a variety of people in a
number of different ways, either by talking to clients face-to-face or over the
phone, presenting cases to consultants, or making written referrals. All
communication must be clear and articulate in order to be understood.
• Interpersonal skills: The Shariah Law Administrator is required to build good
relationships with clients. Therefore, it is crucial to be able to work with people
from all backgrounds.
• IT: Up-to-date and accurate records of all cases need to be kept along with a
substantial amount of paperwork that need to be completed, so proficiency with
computers is essential.
• Organisation: Organisational skills are vital since the Shariah Law
Administrator has to juggle a heavy caseload and liaise with others on a daily
basis.
• Resilience: The work is emotionally challenging and you will likely have to deal
with individuals and families in crisis on regular basis. Resilience and the ability
to look after your own emotional needs are imperative to succeeding in the job.

REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE
• A Diploma/Degree in Shariah Law.
• Previous working experience in Shariah Law related fields and/or Shariah
Courts in Muslim countries.
• Familiarity with UK Law and/or Common Law.
• Experience working with families, children, women and the community.
• Fluent in English (essential).

WORKING HOURS

Monday-Saturday
10am-4pm (36 hours)

FFS - the employer is Manchester Shariah Council. Go find the bloody advert before posting your incorrect assumptions. It took me all of two seconds to find it!

Their sole purpose is to help people explore the best options if they are struggling with their relationship in an Islamic marriage, and if problems cannot be resolved to support the divorce process in accordance with Islamic practice.

Are you opposed to marriage guidance and divorce? Or only for certain people?

Manchester Community Central is not the same as Manchester Community Centre.

Who is the legal employer ?

@AnSolas That isn't the Manchester Sharia Council. This is them: https://mcrshariacouncil.co.uk/

Why is that interesting? Sharia law has no interaction with UK law, just like Canon law has no interaction with UK law. So a Catholic tribunal might require applicants to be Canon lawyers but but legally qualified in UK law.

Honestly think people have absolutely no idea what sharia courts actually are, and aren’t aware that most major religions have their own internal ‘legal’ processes.

According to the advertisement it is Manchester Shariah (sic) Council. Beyond that I know nothing and anyone wanting more fcat checking can do it themselves.

Again you’re the one who made the claim that this was taxpayer funded. So I presume you had something to back that up?

No?

It was just made up BS?

Of course it was. And no, Manchester Community Council does not receive Government funding. As you’d know if you’d done the slightest bit of research before coming out with falsehoods.

OP you are being ridiculous
Sharia law is equivalent to rabbinical law and canon law.

These all govern religious matters. They are not a replacement for and are subordinate to civil and criminal law set by governments.

UK law trumps Sharia law. To comply with that law the candidate must understand the intersection between the two to avoid giving advice that conflicts with UK law.

I think the confusion re funding arises because the job is advertised on Gov UK site.

Which is presumably why the ad asks for an understanding of UK law.

But being legally qualified is not necessary for a role that is essentially about theological advice rather than legal advice.

Let's have a look at the source of this crap, shall we?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Habib
In summary, a failed Tory who turned to Reform UK, then failed at that so set up his own far-right party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_UK

So not even Farage finds him credible, and that has to be one of the lowest bars ever.

Thank you for spotting my error the company address is at a Mosque.

That’s really not confusing. It is very obvious that it is being advertised on a generic jobs board provided by DWP.

These all govern religious matters. They are not a replacement for and are subordinate to civil and criminal law set by governments.

You could try argue that ^ point with the RC church🤷‍♀️

Thanks
then its a Faith job funded by a Faith

No need to because been the case with Roman Catholic canon law too since the Counter Reformation

It deals with matters of divorce which includes issues around domestic abuse. Women's rights are a legal issue not a religious one in this country.
There is a conflict between hard line interpretation of Sharia and a woman's legal rights in this country.

Islamic marraiges are not legal in the UK.
The couple need a civil marriage service and/or a real divorce if actually married.

So while I understand the Faith basis need the role should imo also be focused on knowing where the two laws clash and make sure that both parties understand the difference.

Old report highlighting the issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/20/women-uk-islamic-wedding-legal-rights-civil-ceremony-marriage

The whole thing reads like a fake advert planted just to spread racial hatred on social media, no? That was my first assumption. It’s on the DWP website to make it look like it’s a state funded council role.