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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jamie Lee Curtis not joining the dots

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Lyingonthefloor · 26/07/2025 10:53

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jul/26/jamie-lee-curtis-interview-plastic-surgery-power-age-freakier-friday

I wholeheartedly agree with what Jamie Lee Curtis says in this article about cosmetic treatments but wonder if she feels the same about the mutilation of bodies in the name of “the right of human beings to be who they are", which she says in relation to her trans identifying child.

‘Generations of women have been disfigured’: Jamie Lee Curtis lets rip on plastic surgery, power, and Hollywood’s age problem

The actor explains how she is fighting back against the ‘cosmeceutical industrial complex’ and why she has finally found freedom at 66 years old

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jul/26/jamie-lee-curtis-interview-plastic-surgery-power-age-freakier-friday

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SnoopyPajamas · 29/07/2025 15:16

JLC annoys me. Her son is a classic AGP, and she's aggressive in her support. I appreciate it's not an easy position for any parent to be in, but there's a line. There's a point at which it goes beyond trying to keep the peace with your child, and becomes flat-out shilling for the cult and bullying other women. JLC crossed that line a few years ago, and I haven't been able to respect her since.

Arran2024 · 29/07/2025 15:34

SnoopyPajamas · 29/07/2025 15:16

JLC annoys me. Her son is a classic AGP, and she's aggressive in her support. I appreciate it's not an easy position for any parent to be in, but there's a line. There's a point at which it goes beyond trying to keep the peace with your child, and becomes flat-out shilling for the cult and bullying other women. JLC crossed that line a few years ago, and I haven't been able to respect her since.

He is adopted, which is one of the high risk co issues for being trans. I have two adopted children, both adults now. Mother / child relationships can be very complicated in adoption and I suspect that she treads carefully for a reason.

ByGreenViewer · 29/07/2025 15:42

JLC is doing this to detract from what she did posting a picture of Palestinian children thinking they were Israeli. She deleted it when she realised they were actually Palestinian kids. Her sympathy only extends to isreali kids. She compared the wild fires in california to Gaza.
She has been actively calling plastic surgery genocide so when you Google it, her previous evilness is buried.

Soontobe60 · 29/07/2025 15:46

ButterflyHatched · 26/07/2025 21:55

I've literally never been a man - transitioned at school many years before I became an adult. Wouldn't even know how to be a man if I tried.

There is ‘literally’ only one way to ‘be a man’ and that’s to have been born male then reached adulthood. Sadly, it’s impossible to change this pathway as sex is immutable

SequinsandSoleros · 29/07/2025 15:47

Tom still identified as male at 16 but went into therapy after questioning his identity/a trans friend asking. Therapy wasn't great. He'd had a gay relationship but identifies as bi and is now married.
Seven years after therapy came out as Ruby and is wed to a fellow cosplayer Kynthia.
Ruby is a cosplayer/gamer. Had a cosplay-themed wedding and is a self-proclaimed goblin lover and a furry allegedly.
Kudos, I guess, to JLC for joining in with the costumes/dress-up but - and I'm going to be furryphobic here - I'd say trans is the least of her issues if her child is wearing a cat collar round the house. I'd embrace the former rather than the latter. Miaow.

ExercicenformedeZ · 29/07/2025 15:49

Summerhillsquare · 27/07/2025 06:44

Lucky you, she's a very fine looking woman. She was very defensive about the privilege that brings in the interview.

To be fair to her, she has never really had pretty privilege in the way that Margot Robbie or Angelina Jolie have. I doubt her looks would have opened doors on their own. I would say she benefited far more from nepotism than from being beautiful.

ExercicenformedeZ · 29/07/2025 15:52

Also, I'm not willing to criticize a parent for supporting their child. I don't really see that her supporting her child means that she needs to keep silent about the nonsense about plastic surgery.

WallaceinAnderland · 29/07/2025 15:56

I am convinced now that extreme body modification is becoming mainstream.

I know of three young women having their healthy breasts removed purely from personal choice. Two are friends of the family and one is a close family member who identifies as non binary.

It's incredibly sad but no longer shocking to me. They seem to be excited about it and look at it the same as having a permanent tattoo. The attitude seems to be yes, they might regret it but they can get it modified again later.

3bluellamas · 29/07/2025 16:02

I have no idea whether it is true but the very widely circulated internet rumour is that JLC is intersex. It stems from an interview and photo with her parents when she was born where the baby is called James in the article and referred to as he.

Might all be complete internet bollocks but it would impact on her view of this sort of topic.

SnoopyPajamas · 29/07/2025 16:43

Arran2024 · 29/07/2025 15:34

He is adopted, which is one of the high risk co issues for being trans. I have two adopted children, both adults now. Mother / child relationships can be very complicated in adoption and I suspect that she treads carefully for a reason.

I agree, and I completely understand that. But there's no need for any of this to be in the public eye at all. All you have to say is "I support my child, but I want to keep my private life private". And that would be that.

It's a whole different ballgame to start buying into the trans oppression narrative, which paints all women who dissent as evil transphobic terfs. JLC is using her fame and influence to spread this nonsense, and it's so disingenuous. She's a woman. Objectively, she must see that the terfs have a point. Nor can she be blind to the elements influencing her son's transition. She will be more aware of his personal history than anyone - and the fetish aspect of it all is blatant. She cannot live in such a complete state of cognitive dissonance. But she chooses to ignore the red flags and push the bullshit instead.

I understand she has probably done the typical Hollywood thing of handing over the kids to nannies most of their young lives, and that some of her behaviour now stems from guilt. She's overcompensating. But I can't respect that either.

Really, I'm not left with much about JLC I can respect. As a result, I'm not particularly interested in listening to her talk.

spannasaurus · 29/07/2025 17:09

3bluellamas · 29/07/2025 16:02

I have no idea whether it is true but the very widely circulated internet rumour is that JLC is intersex. It stems from an interview and photo with her parents when she was born where the baby is called James in the article and referred to as he.

Might all be complete internet bollocks but it would impact on her view of this sort of topic.

That predates the Internet. Gossip mags we're running similar stories in the 80s so she's being putting up with that shit for a very long time.

SequinsandSoleros · 29/07/2025 22:37

3bluellamas · 29/07/2025 16:02

I have no idea whether it is true but the very widely circulated internet rumour is that JLC is intersex. It stems from an interview and photo with her parents when she was born where the baby is called James in the article and referred to as he.

Might all be complete internet bollocks but it would impact on her view of this sort of topic.

Nah that's just misogynist bollocks because JLC was androgynous for the time and had fertility issues. God forbid anyone rock a pixie.

3bluellamas · 30/07/2025 09:41

SequinsandSoleros · 29/07/2025 22:37

Nah that's just misogynist bollocks because JLC was androgynous for the time and had fertility issues. God forbid anyone rock a pixie.

I have actually seen the newspaper article from when she was little online - but you never know what is real and what isn't nowadays.

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