Bristol cllrs walk out in debate in SC ruling when woman speaks

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https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/politicians-walk-out-meeting-pleas-made-council-reverse-support-trans-people/

Bristol council on its ongoing mission to fuck over women

“Bristol City Council is committed to providing and promoting inclusive services for everyone in Bristol, including trans and gender-diverse people.
“Our ambition is to create a fair, safe, accessible and inclusive city where everyone feels they belong and has a voice and an equal opportunity to succeed and thrive.”
however everyone having a voice clearly doesn’t include women as some cllrs walked out when Wendy Stephenson said: “I present this statement on the third anniversary of a silver motion that stated the council resolves to recognise that trans men are men and trans women are women.
“Following the Supreme Court judgement, the council must withdraw the motion and its trans-inclusion and gender identity policy.
“The negative impact of the council’s position has been felt by women across Bristol”

unfortunately given that it’s Bristol, the Brighton of the south west, I’m not remotely surprised

You haven’t said anything worth discussing.

You just drop an insinuation that these councils are more… “enlightened” and any views to the contrary are…” interesting”.

It’s all very indirect and seems to be about signalling your views, but not saying anything worth responding to.

I just replied to give them an opportunity to explain why they thought misogyny and homophobia were so progressive.

Does anyone know what the precise comment that triggered the councillors to walk out was? According to the article the point the green people were making was that the public comments constituted harassment. But the bit I heard after they walked out was so reasonable the whole thing becomes surreal and I'm sorry to say I find it funny.
The best bit in the article is the councillor inviting others to come and see the hairs on their chin (ny chin chin...)
Of course in reality it's not funny, it's a mess.

But why does it matter if those two places have a reputation for being "progressive" if the reality is somewhat different?

Trampling all over women's rights isn't progressive. It's just misogyny, the same as all other misogyny throughout history, and it's as old as the hills.

What on earth do you think is progressive about these places?

The Green Party are notorious for this kind of nonsense. I doubt it was particularly terrible.

Progress can be good, bad or somewhere in between. It just means that there is a change.

The issue is that some people don't understand this simple point. They think that all 'progress' must be good, which simply isn't true.

So, they want to change things without actually analysing the pros and cons of the change on society before doing so. That's how we get all these self-declared 'good progressive people' who actually have very damaging and regressive ideas.

Please also see unthinking supporters of Queer Theory and the removal/queering of boundaries without thinking about why the boundary is there in the first place.

I would be interested to know how much of a crossover there is with the 'Self-declared TRSOH' and people who think left=good and right=bad.

None of these people are the sort to consider 'Chesterton's Fence'.

I don't understand what message these Green councillors think they're giving with these walkouts.

It seems to be a version of sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "I'm not listening", like a stroppy teenager.

Exactly - there was a huge amount of 'progress' towards eliminating women's human rights in Afghanistan once the Taliban were in charge.

We've seen what that progress has lead to - far greater rates of death for women and girls in Afghanistan and almost unimaginable suffering. Lack of right to education, or health care, or rescue when trapped under a building.

I'm sure the Taliban think they're 'progressive' too.

The other scary thing is that this will put off a lot of people who want the climate crisis to be prioritised, and it will continue to get lost in the stampede to trample on women.

It's important and walking out of Council meetings helps not one bit.

If councillors are unwilling to even be in the same room when members of the public raise concerns about an issue, then they're not fit for the job.
They don't need to agree but they do need to listen to the people they're supposed to be representing. It's literally what they're there for.
If any of them had any integrity, they'd resign but clearly they do not.

They appear to think they can restart #nodebate.

no, that ship has most definitely sailed.

I watched a bit of the meeting. It seems they first walked out during the first 1 minute (that's all each person is allowed) submission about the council's response to the ruling. Then they came back in to hear the next member of the public talk about something else. Then they walked out again even before the next person began talking about the council's response again. neither statement seemed particularly shocking to me, particularly in the context of the other things said by members of the public in relation to other issues.

I'm not going to watch all of it to see how many times they did this but it already seems like a pantomime.

The reason I'm interested is because I would genuinely like to know how I can talk about this with people without triggering them. It seems that asking how sex based rights or sexual orientation based rights (or just freedom from discrimination on the basis of these personal characteristics) are possible without using a coherent definition of sex as the foundation for them is a non-starter.

https://www.youtube.com/live/uy-5_8yNmG0?feature=shared

This. They need to resign and make way for some actual grown ups.

Is there any way for members of the public to put forward a motion calling for the resignation of any councillors who walk out like this on the he grounds that they are refusing to perform the basic functions required as part of their role?

In any other role you'd be sacked for this sort of behaviour.

I think the only recourse will be the EHRC if they are willing to enforce, or the courts.

They don’t give a shit about women

With a bit of luck it’s not only sailed but also sunk

'Progressivism' is a secular religion with the promised land always just out of sight and around the next corner; but only if you are pure and virtuous enough to deserve it, and if you work hard enough.

The Deputy Leader of the Labour group in Liverpool, a woman who usually spent all of her time talking about 'women' and the 'working class' walked out of the council chamber out in a very performative manner just before the speech that one of the Liverpool Resisters had been invited to give to the assembled council.

Fortunately, she's gone now.....but certainly not because of that failure of responsibility and decency. Stupid cow!

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https://thecritic.co.uk/a-council-of-despair/

I have submitted an official complaint to the council about the consequential banning of Wendy and Phoebe from the chamber for six months. If anyone would care to join me it it would be wonderful to flood the council’s complaints in box about the appalling treatment they have experienced for speaking out about our sex based rights. I have drafted a complaint letter which I’m happy to share via DM and checked that one does not need to be a Bristol resident to submit such a complaint because it is about procedural democracy. I do live in Bristol and know Wendy well, she has worked tirelessly in the third sector to promote rights for all minorities and deserves our support.

CuriousAlien · 11/09/2025 12:07
I watched a bit of the meeting. It seems they first walked out during the first 1 minute (that's all each person is allowed) submission about the council's response to the ruling. Then they came back in to hear the next member of the public talk about something else. Then they walked out again even before the next person began talking about the council's response again. neither statement seemed particularly shocking to me, particularly in the context of the other things said by members of the public in relation to other issues.

That reminds me of those old carved wooden clocks where on the hour one animated figurine comes out and another one goes in and then the other one....
A woman comes out, so the Green pops in; the the Green pops out as the woman goes in..🙄