We thought Owen Jones couldn’t get more odious.. He has proved us wrong!

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‘[Owen] seems to be upset because she had a chuckle about his erratic behaviour on Piers Morgan Uncensored last week. In response to an X user who wondered if Jones might have partaken of the white stuff before fidgeting and gurning his way through Morgan’s show, Rowling tweeted: “Well, he is known as Talcum X.”

Jones is hopping mad. He’s even written a 1,300-word screed on what a rotter Rowling is, which I’m sure we can all agree is a perfectly normal response to a woman making a joke.’

😂😂 and also 🤮🤢

I spent a lot of yesterday arguing over the use of the word concentration camp. People just use a word they think will emotionally trigger people without caring if it’s the correct word or not. It’s quite Orwellian really. Lot of holocaust inversion going on.

I was directly responding to your very first sentence, "Or maybe any foreign “imposing” of anything is always reprehensible."

My opening sentence was, "Sorry, I don't agree that it's reprehensible to impose[...]" and then gave examples of things I do not think it is reprehensible to impose as a foreign power.

I'm not sure why you're confused.

You might like to read this:
https://www.7octparliamentarycommission.co.uk

A few select quotes:
Since her release, Agam Goldstein-Almog, also recounted that several female hostages confided in her about being sexually assaulted by their captors, including one woman who was raped at gunpoint by a Hamas guard.216 A number of female residents were sexually abused before being killed while others were sexually mutilated afterwards. According to a report by the
Office of the Special Representative of the UN Secretary General on Sexual Violence in Conflict (SRSG-SVC), Pramila Patten, “The recurring pattern of female victims found undressed, bound, and shot – indicates that
sexual violence, including potential sexualised torture,
or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, may have occurred.”

Alumim was evacuated in the afternoon of 8 October 2023. The IDF have since released an interrogation video of a terrorist arrested at Kibbutz Alumim, admitting that they were deliberately ordered to commit attacks against civilians and given instructions to kill, behead, cut off body parts and even rape the corpse of a girl.

As well as the deliberate killing and kidnapping of civilians, and the destruction or defilement of dead bodies, evidence also suggests strongly that during the 6 hours when Hamas-led attackers had free rein of much of Kibbutz Be’eri, some attackers committed acts of sexual violence and rape against civilians in the village.

The United Nations Report on Sexual Violence found that there were reasonable grounds to believe that “sexual violence occurred in Kibbutz Re’im, including rape.” The rape of women happened on Route 232, “outside of a bomb shelter at the entrance of Kibbutz Re’im, which was corroborated by witness testimonies and digital material.”504

'Now 20 months later...' This report came out in March. The evidence was available to those with eyes and ears even before that. The fact that you didn't believe the early information speaks volumes about you.

I thought he was talcum X cos of his youthful appearance 😳

i will show myself out…

i was just coming here to say this. When we are in the middle of the struggle, of course the left wants women fighting (and sometimes dying) alongside the men, we're all equal and the utopia we are fighting for will be all about equality.

And then the struggle is over, the left have power and BAM! "oh sorry, but you must understand that X, Y and Z issues are way more important than equality legislation, be patient and be kind. And make us a sandwich while you're waiting"

Like all the lovely lefty TRAs and their allies who want to buy trafficked babies (you say surrogacy, i say child trafficking...) - they literally can't tell that Isla Bryson is a man, it is literally impossible to distinguish Sophie Molly and Lia Thomas from 3,5 billion other women. But THAT WOMAN CAN DONATE HER EGGS AND GESTATE A BABY FOR ME.

I recall, a long time ago on here, a poster claiming that a woman in a migrant camp near Calais had been 'beaten' by police. Cynic that I have become, I watched the video. The policeman was, during a protest, many heightened emotions, trying to remove a woman from a low roof. She was being as obstructive as possible. He was pulling her. He didn't hit her, never mind beat her.

This (mis)use of language is exasperating. It diminishes trust.

The IDF is famously effective when it sets out to do something - witness the attacks on Iran (and yes, it fouled up badly on October 6/7). If it wanted to commit genocide in Gaza, the death toll (and remember, that is what Hamas is claiming) would be much, much higher.

And in saying all of this, I am not supporting every action of the IDF. I'm not supporting Bibi. I'm not ignoring or seeking to diminish the suffering of Gazan civilians. (I shouldn't have to say that, but if I don't... I'll probably be accused of being a genocidal pro-Israel extremist who wants all Palestinians to be in concentration camps...)

Richard Sanders investigated and found no forensic, visual or photographic evidence of the rapes and at the time of his report

The VERY IDEA that women weren't raped during any of these attacks, and ever anywhere, don'T get raped during (and after) the event is so laughable that i can'T take anything else you or Richard Sanders say seriously.

We all know it happens. We know it happened in WW2, in Korea, in Vietnam, in Haiti, in Rwanda, in the Balkans. It happens all the sodding time and anyone who denies it is, frankly, a woman hating fucker.

There were many sentences after the first one.

Maybe you should read them.

Well said Brefugee

beggers belief

Israel has it's own religious zealots, well know fact, all the quotes about erasing the Gaza Strip, mostly come from them but Israel has yet to erase Gaza, why? because despite the fact that the rent-a-gobs are in government Israel is a democratic government and not given to committing wholesale carnage. Which says a lot about Israel if people would think with their brains, not their 'hearts'.

There have been alleged atrocities committed against the combatants Israel has captured, but that's happen in every war, see Abu Ghraib in the Iraq War. It took the USA a lot longer to investigate those crimes than it's taking Israel but for some reason Israel must be held to a level of perfection that nobody else has to be.

OJ is a first class useful idiot, who is becoming more and more irrelevant.

Hamas live streamed it. On tiktok and X. They also live streamed their attacks on the mobile phones of their victims and sent it to the parents of the victims. Hamas sent the videos to their own parents and crowed about their actions. They were proud of it.

There is literally no doubt it happened. None. The only people denying it are ... well... we know what they are.

I would also remind people that 49 Thai nationals were murdered on October 7.

79 foreign nationals were murdered on October 7. Brendan O'Neill wrote an article about it not long after detailing OJ's youtube response to himself watching the Hamas footage. You can google both those things from the months aftwrwards. OJ's response reveals exactly who he is.

I would also remind people that 49 Thai nationals were murdered on October 7.
I often wonder about them. Are they what you'd call 'collateral damage' (horrible term)? Or were the terrorists so high on carnage that they didn't care who they killed?

There's a terrible image from October 7, taken and posted by Hamas because they want the world to see it, of a terrorist hauling a woman to a car by her hair, hands bound behind her back, and the seat of her trousers is soaked in blood.

I knew at once what I was looking at and so did everyone who saw that image. If you tell me she got that injury from falling over, or that it was a freak one-off that was not repeated elsewhere on the day Hamas murdered 1200 people and kidnapped hundreds more including a baby - that they did all this but didn't do THAT - I'll know not to believe a single word you say about anything else either, and I'll draw my own conclusions about why this is the only nation on earth about which you'd tell such a lie.

There are still 2 Thai nationals being held captive, Nattapong Pinta was a Thai national, the IDF recovered his body a month ago after being held for 610 days.

She can support Israel if she wants. If she does. Who made you in charge of what anyone else believes?

And no. If you don't "speak out" (who is listening to you is anyone's guess) then you are not "complicit" in anything relating to Gaza. Don't be so silly.

they are victims of Hamas terrorism. But yes, they will probably go down in the history books as "collateral damage" or "wrong place, wrong time"

I did riot training when i was young. Talking to some of my fellow trainees afterwards (we did both sides), one thing was clear: even against people you know, even when you know it is simulated, it is VERY VERY EASY to get carried away. It probably didn't even register with the Hamas attackers who they were (to be "fair" since people who live in Israel often come from all over the world, they might have honestly thought they were Israelies/Jewish. Or they could have thought "meh, they're obviously on Israel's side". We will never know)

ETA: i am interested in why we all have to take a position, and further why it must always be "the correct one"

For eg Ukraine. AFAIK Ukraine has had right-wing leadership ever since the Soviet Union dissolved. Some more right than others, but iirc Zelensky is also fairly right wing. In the normal course of events I wouldn't support him/them. But clearly, the Ukraine has been invaded by a very aggressive neighbour who wants to annexe even more of the country than they have already annexed. So if i support Zelensky/Ukraine against the Russians, does that mean i agree with everything else he/they stand for?

If there are no jews or Israel involved, expect radio silence. JKR spoke out against Corbyn's antisemitism while Jones championed it. JKR has tweeted only once about the current Gaza conflict- about the senseless murder of a young Israeli girl who was a HP fan. She is not obliged to do more.

She can "speak out" about what.she wants. Or would you and OJ like her to be the mouthpiece for whatever views you may have yourselves?

They would have murdered OJ and all the bleeding heart terror simps humanitarians if they had been there on Oct 7. With their bare hands if possible. JKR is a smart woman, she probably knows this.

Didn't know that the little one has ADHD.
Explains a lot - including his chronic need to argue over anything and everything.

I see his arbitrary choice of photographs to place beside one another is as measured as ever!

And now this. JKR follows Aimen Dean on X. This will give Talcum X enough to vent his spleen for the next 6 months.

x.com/AimenDean/status/1942819676456640704

What have you done about the war in Sudan and the enormous suffering there? Have you ever commented on it? Do you know anything about it? Do you even know where Sudan is on a map?

UN article on Sudan

The genocide in Gaza should be ‘talked about’ due to our government’s active involvement, and our historical responsibility. And yes I agree - genocide ANYWHERE should never be ignored as it is always the women and children who beat the brunt of men’s aggression in these situations. It’s so easy for us to ignore the suffering of other people, and get distracted by all the crap and lies we are fed to do so.

This post is about Owen Jones and what an ongoing misogynistic twat he is. As others have said yes, it gets him clicks. Like the undoubtedly male India W and whoever the others men desperate for attention are.

However some people here obv want to derail the thread / combine it into a thread about Palestine (Hamas - where do the two separate) and Israel.

I wonder if any of those in support of Hamas understand their charter? I’ll post it here. They want Jihad. Look it up. It’s not good. They don’t give a flying fuck about their own poor everyday Palestinian people. Most of whom want to live a normal life, a comfortable life.

Gaza - Hamas have been given billions of dollars in western aid since before Clinton was in power - this was to improve the lives of Palestinians. What happened? They’ve spent it on tunnels and getting fat in Qatar.

To them being killed means nothing but going to heaven. They don’t give a shit. So until stupid leftie westerners understand that culture, they will always be wrong.

Back to the little punk Owen jones. Hopefully he’ll get a proper job soon, rather than hanging on the coat tails of a hugely successful billionaire goddess.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21stcentury/hamas.asp