Do you support transitioning at all?

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I somewhat do, I will admit. I think it's okay if an adult wants to take hormones, dress as they'd like to, be treated as M or F, or even change their name. I'll respect it all. However I don't agree with them being allowed into single sex spaces or conversations (a gay trans person is functionally a straight person, despite what they say, and a gay FtM shouldn't try to date gay guys for example).

I question if this is a common view or is it niche in these more gender critical spaces.

I don't believe human beings can change sex, but if some of them wish to modify their bodies with surgery or hormones, it's hardly my place to try to stop them. Provided that they do it on their own dime. I don't think it's an appropriate use of NHS resources.

People can dress as they choose, and act out their fetish in the presence of consenting adults, but GR shouldn’t be a protected characteristic, employers should be allowed to decide they don’t want a man dressed as an exaggerated version of a woman representing their company for example, and damaging a healthy body with hormones and surgery is a step too far, even if they’re paying themselves, after all we criminalise drugs so there is precedent for not letting people do whatever they want to their healthy bodies.

I don't see how we can stop an adult from changing their name and attire and having hormone treatment and/or cosmetic surgery (nor does it yet seem sufficiently unambiguously dangerous that we could ban it on medical ethical grounds). However:

No to NHS involvement.

No to anyone under 25 doing it.

No to changing official documents. Concealing people's sex is bad for safeguarding, data integrity and sex-based rights. GRA should be repealed.

No to gender reassignment being a protected characteristic. I'm open to persuasion on this, but I think it reifies GR, and has a chilling effect on free speech, plus trans are widely tolerated now and enjoy protection under the PC of belief.

No to state endorsement of the belief system, such as including it in educational materials or official information about government services. It's a minority belief of less than 1 in 5, according to latest survey, and should be treated like any other minority belief.

I don’t really believe in it in any meaningful sense. If people want to take hormones that aren’t indicated for their bodies or have cosmetic surgery to change their appearance, I guess that’s up to them, but it shouldn’t be on the NHS and others shouldn’t have to pretend it means anything.

I think it should be illegal.
Transition being legal steals hormones and NHS resources from people who really need it, confuses children, harms women, puts lesbians in danger

Plus its exactly the same as telling an anorexic person theyre fat and prescribing them diet pills

And by “people” I mean adults. Zero tolerance on children being able/encouraged to do these things and it should be considered abuse.

I'm not sure.

Some trans people really do seem sure that it has helped them.

I think the pharmaceutical industry should be working on developing a drug to alleviate the symptoms of dysphoria so that people can feel more comfortable living as the sex they are.

Remember, they want to ban "conversion therspy" and by that they mean any attempt to discuss what might be causing the feelings of being in the wrong body. Every other type of body dysmorphia is treated with therapy, not surgery or medication. So why is this one different?

I feel very strongly that it’s not my business in a sense - adults have these feelings, and there are actions they can take that some find helpful. Who am I to stop them?…

…Provided that the boundaries I think are important are in place. Sex is important and reflected in statistics, policy, health systems and law without change. Women are recognised as a valid and definable category of people who can define their own needs as a sex if they wish to, including lesbian culture and women with DSDs. The endemic homophobia of a lot of public male culture in the UK is genuinely addressed so that a much wider range of male (and in fact female) lives are valued and celebrated. Children aren’t told either that they can ‘choose their sex’ or that transition is a mainstream choice that will fix distress. There is a tiny group of people, mostly male, who are highly disturbed and with an unstable sexual identity, and this is recognised in the justice system.

We have a lot of this - except tackling homophobia. Still IIRC pretty much ZERO out male gay or transwoman professional footballers in male/open teams in the UK. In 2025 that is absolutely insane and that’s where the work needs doing - by men.

I don't think that transitioning is the right way to treat gender dysphoria, no matter how well someone may "pass", there will always be something that marks you as your sex eg a transwoman will never be pregnant. Changing sex is a biological impossibility, to go through life essentially living a lie and never truly being the thing that you "feel" I am imagine would be awful, it's not something I think anyone should do.

I view it in much the same way as I view botox, facelifts etc, i.e. provided the person concerned is an adult then I think it's up to them, just as long as we're not expected believe or behave as if they're ten years younger than they are.

No. And certainly not on the NHS.

Pretty much how I feel.

No. I used to, before the whole trans debacle. But that's because I never thought much about it. And then I did. And now I'm firmly against anything that promotes notions of 'gender', including drag queens. Now, I have no issue with men wearing dresses, or high heels, or makeup and nail polish if they so wish - but saying it's 'feminine' is offensive to me. And plastering on fake boobs and skipping about squeaking in a high pitched voice as some sort of impression of how you think women should behave is absolutely disgusting, and should be treated as a hate crime. I can't see any difference at all to someone painting their skin black, adopting what they consider to be 'black' hair and clothing, then prancing around acting out hideously racist stereotypes of how they think black people behave.

No. The more I read about people who claim to be trans, the more I think affirming their delusion is a mistake.

I support men and women wearing whatever they want and not feeling constrained by ridiculous gender roles.

I don’t love the idea of adults altering their healthy bodies with drugs or surgery because I don’t think they truly appreciate what it means to have a body that is healthy. Once you experience a body that is failing or one like mine where your immune system is constantly attacking itself, it’s hard to watch people give that up for appearance. I still want to
live in a world where adults get to make choices against their own self-interest, so I still support the right of an adult to get body modifications for whatever reason they choose.

what I don’t support is legal fiction. Data collection should be accurate. Instead of hiding people in existing categories it is better to
add new measures. That is the best way to make sure everyone’s rights are protected. I want people who defy gender norms to have their rights protected just as much as I want people who blend in to be protected.

It Depends what you mean by “transition”.

I fully support smashing all the gender stereotypes. Style your hair and wear make up and accessories as you like, wear whatever clothes you like within the bounds of decency and/or appropriate for the situation. I will call you by your preferred name and treat you with the courtesy and civility I would with any other person. I will always recognise your biological sex but the only time that would be an issue for me would be if you tried to access facilities designed for the opposite sex.

The line for me for where it moves from gender non-conformity to boarding a flight to Malaga is false breasts. For example, Bowie was the epitome of gnc in the 70s and wore dresses, but they were cut and fit to a male body (see the cover for The Man Who Sold The World). I used to think Eddie Izzard was another gnc hero with his “not women’s clothes, they’re my clothes” Action Transvestite schtick, but he lost me at the point he started wearing falsies and deciding he was a woman after all.

i accept there are a very small number of adult men, who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria, and that medical treatment is a last resort treatment to relieve their mental distress and allow them to function in society.

Otherwise, the mental distress for people of all ages should be addressed by mental health support to reconcile with their body and facing the reality that other people will always recognise their sex. Those adults without a diagnosis who nevertheless want to modify their body with drugs and surgery - I’m currently undecided. I tend towards supporting bodily autonomy and people being able to do what they like (not in the nhs though), but I think it’s ethically wrong to take a functioning human body and damage it so it is less functioning. But is it worse than, for example, damaging your body through smoking, taking recreational drugs or doing extreme sports? As I said, undecided. Still doesn’t make you the opposite sex though.

Cross sex hormones, no way. There us a shortage of HRT from what I understand and that should only be available to those who actually need it. It's not good for the environment either

Same, except unfortunately those are exactly the areas my trans friends most vehemently disagree with me about - lots of 'where are we going to pee?' and 'nobody should be forced to endure the wrong puberty'. Also very upset about the Sullivan Review, and utterly convinced that everything is transphobia. They really think they are women in some sense that should matter to the rest of us; I don't understand why having gender dysphoria would make anyone think that. I know a transman who is much more logical - hates being a woman, identifies not as a man, but as a transman.

Very similar. I know a prominent TRA (male, non-trans) who knows Alice Sullivan and sometimes says things like "I don't understand how she could take this obtuse position after I explained things to her." I think, like a lot of left wing men, he's incapable of seeing his own male chauvinism.

I've found the same with transmen - they know they're female even if they hate it. At least they don't see themselves as literally the same as OG men.

I repeat this mantra to my 10 and 12 year old DDs “there is no “right” way to be a woman and no “right” way to be a man”.
I find the whole concept of gender reductive and regressive.
And men should definitely NOT be in women’s spaces, sports etc

Does that just say it all though?

The one who was born female and socialised as a girl is just trying to get through life as best they can and doesn't want to tread on anyone's toes.

The ones who were born male and socialised as boys think women should accept being redefined as people who share their identity so that they can be centred and included.

Why do so many male people who claim to identify as women behave in such a stereotypically male way?

You've summed up my own thoughts and feelings on this topic. I don't believe anyone needs to use pronouns or make accommodations for anyone being transgendered. None of the trans people I know have an issue with this, I don't treat them any differently than any one else, and I expect the majority of those in the T category are fine with this too. Outside of online influencers, most people who don't fit the gender binary are getting on with their lives just fine. I'm glad about the supreme court decision too, it means vulnerable people may be protected.

Yes, if adult.

I have no idea how you put in the checks and balances that ensure it’s appropriate, but I do think for some presentation, hormones or surgery will be the right thing.

I don’t believe I should agree TWAW/TMAM though and sex and gender should be seen as separate. I don’t object to someone else believing it if they do me the same courtesy.

I honestly couldn't give a fuck what adults choose to do. So long as it doesn't impinge on the rights of others.