Murderer's criminal record wiped due to 'trans' identity

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-killer-criminal-record-wiped-35397482

Only came to light because of the court case involving him claiming a woman in prison had been 'transphobic'(he lost). Presumably this man remains in the women's estate.

The unit is not the issue. The unit simply allows trans people to disclose their previous identity confidentially.

The problem is that a gender recognition certificate gives you a new birth certificate. So anything under your old name is not traceable - people who change their name by deed poll are traceable because they don't get a new birth certificate. Only trans people get this new identity option.

So a trans person who wants to hide their old identity isn't going to use the unit, because that would mean they are admitting they are trans, and the unit would want the old ID.

No, the problem is that our trans woman with a criminal record now has a brand new name and birth certificate to prove it. They will fill in the dbs form with the new ID, their passport will show their new name, so will their driving licence. The dbs check will show up nothing on the new name so they are approved. They have broken the rules by not disclosing the old name, but who is going to catch them?

Steady on. You’re using your eyes and your brain at the same time! You’re in danger of committing a thought crime any minute now…

How many criminals have had their records wiped on the basis of them being ‘trans’? Is this something that a FOI can find out?

Epic, systemic failure.

+dons tin foil hat+

This is the end-game. This is, in my view, what the whole shebang was always all about - allowing paedophiles and other sex offenders a loophole to evade checks, and to provide them with continuing access to children and vulnerable people. All the stuff about women in sport and peeing is just window dressing. It was always about evading safeguarding.

It’s not funny at all, but I did laugh at your comment because it’s a ludicrous situation. I feel the same way. If I tell people about this they’ll say it’s rubbish because it’s in a tabloid, while they’re believing the crap they read in the Guardian. It’s maddening.

I hate reading things like this - but it's hard to disagree.

The deliberate undermining of safeguarding - all in plain sight
The open targeting of the most vulnerable children and young people, especially children in the care of the state, all alienated from their families

I don't want to put on a tin foil hat - but when someone shows you who they are and all that....
I read this terrible and revealing piece from Transgender Trend yesterday.
It made me cry.

I will make a thread about it shortly as this needs to be in the open but this demonstrates how the services that protect and safeguard children have been unforgivably captured and stopped from putting children's needs and safety first.

www.transgendertrend.com/social-work-history-ideological-capture/

Thus avoiding the whole point of a DBS check and rendering the process a pointless waste of time and money

I see a world where mps will be shaving their criminal records and getting squeaky clean.
This is obviously the test piece project to see how far thry can hope to push the boundaries.... and as ever, there Are NO Boundaries!

They are working on the widely held, apparently, belief that trans women are some kind of best of men, little Dylan Mulvaney unicorns who would never hurt a fly. Hailey from Coronation St. Eddie Izzard. Lovely, lovely people.

They don't understand that Isla Bryson is just as representative. They refuse to believe the offending stats, they tell us they're not "real" trans women or start talking about criminalising sex work (which isn't even a thing in the UK).

So of course they put in place a system which relies on truth and sticking to the rules because they genuinely think that trans people are so lovely and won't lie.

They have completely lost the plot.

I recall that Andrew Miller, the trans identified butcher who kidnapped a young girl, insisted on being charged under his original name, supposedly to protect the trans community. I'm now wondering whether he had an eye on changing his identity and expunging his record after he's served his sentence.

The first thing that came to my mind was to say condolences to you and everyone near that horrible case... I'm sorry I derrailed the thread but this was just too much to digest.

I guess they are birds of a feather.

This is so astonishing, thanks for sharing.

I am always amazed by how things seemed to suddenly pivot. I adopted two children in 2001 and have had years of dealing with social workers, therapists, medical professionals, youth workers, disability teams etc.

No way before about 2016 was any of the trans stuff mainstream. My younger daughter went to a specialist asd secondary school where one girl identified as a cat, but that was just seen as quirky and the school didn't tolerate it. No one was trans.

Same in my adoption support group. None of us had trans kids. None of us were trans either.

But now, the school is full of trans kids and the adoption groups are full of parents with trans identifying young people.

My elder daughter used to go to a disabled young people's youth club. During covid i reslised it focused hugely on trans issues - they dropped activity bags off and they were full of trans word searches, trans colouring in pages, rainbow stuff. I couldn't believe how huge it had become.

These are the most vulnerable young people and children and if you are in any of these worlds you are showered with this stuff all the time.

No wonder they gravitate towards it. I can imagine how happy the professionals are when a child from one of these groups says they are trans, because they will think they led them to their truth, and it's something practical which will have an impact of some sort. These children are so hard to "fix" but here is a real outcome.

It is awful.

Yes, he's a man. The Scottish Prison Service put men in women's prisons if the men say they have a womanly gender identity.

Why have they not been booted out since the SC judgement? It's outrageous.

Honestly, the whole tin foil hat thing-
It’s difficult to discuss without sounding like a talking trope for bigoted dinosaur.

It’s true, I read it in the daily mail. They are wiping their criminal history and infiltrating schools, prisons, hospitals… your nurse might be a man in lipstick and a dress. They are winning medals, too! The boxer who won gold was a bloke. Punching the proper girls he was.

I’m not exaggerating, honest!

🙄

Waiting for the EHRC's revised guidance to inform their working group before producing new policies, apparently.

It's like Monty Python.

Get men out of women's prisons. It's not complicated, and never has been.

And the number of people with GRCs is climbing. A combination of reducing the cost, putting the process online and the whole trans thing taking off. I think I saw a new thread about it. As criminals realise it can give them a brand new untraceable id, better than just changing their name by deed poll, it can only get more popular.

If you create a means by which criminals can wipe/hide their history, criminals are going to take advantage of that means.

The government have done that using the vehicle of 'trans' identities.

This will attract predators and dangerous criminals looking to obscure their history. A man who has a conviction for, say, sex crimes, could erase that history.

The argument politicians use is that 'no man needs to go to that length to access victims. What they tacitly mean is that they see transitioning as shameful and embarrassing and claim no man would put himself through that shame.

They forget that sex offenders already have a lot of shame attached to their name - abandoning that name to pretend to be a woman will cerainly not be any more shameful, and in fact they may well gain plaudits and admiration.

Can anyone else spot a rather obvious flaw in the plan, relying on the honesty and integrity of convicted felons?

Are you suggesting that none of these things happened or have I misunderstood you and you are going for max sarcasm?

The whole business is ridiculous.

I wonder whether the powers that be ever look at the original location of these predatory men who now claim to be women?

Paris Green/Peter Laing - Glenrothes
Katie/Lennon Dolatowski - Kirkcaldy
Now deceased Andrew Burns/Obi Wan Kenobi/Mr Mighty Almighty/Mitzababy/Tiffany Scott - Kinglassie (a village between Glenrothes and Kirkcaldy.

There's a network of Fife criminals, even though the actual prisons are outside the region. They keep in touch via smuggled burner phones.

There's also a pattern of criminals blaming their crimes; their murders, their rapes, on the stress of hiding their trans identities. Bonkers but it seems to work, people buy it. Iirc someone trotting out this line was invited to address parliament.

I’m saying that talking about the current situation makes one sound like a belligerent bloke muttering at the back of the bus.
It’s ludicrous. The truth sounds like a conspiracy theory.

This is horrifying, and so is the link about social work and what @Arran2024 has to say.

Years ago, when I had my one-sided row with the LibDems, reasoned rage on my side and the robotic repetition of trendy mantras on theirs, I made the point that this whole thing wasn't leaving safeguarding loopholes, it was leaving the gates wide open. I knew that they were thinking of me as an unhinged dinosaur in a tinfoil hat, but their absolute inability to engage with what I had to say or answer any of my questions just convinced me that they were captured by an insane ideology.

The thing is, though, if the entirely predictable safeguarding nightmare was obvious to me (with exposure only to the basic safeguarding training given to a lowly functionary in a school), why couldn't they see it? Were they stupid, or had they been coshed over the head by the desire to pick up the latest cause, and blunted their brains that way?

To find that this blindness to the risks has been so widespread is just depressing. How can people in authority, with the welfare of very vulnerable people in their hands, be so negligently stupid?

I get what the PP is saying about it sounding like conspiracy
when someone trots out some bonkers right wing crap about immigration for example then tells me they read all about it in the mail or other rags I roll my eyes

but it seems those places are the only places reporting things like on this post while other places I’d usually believe marginally more are sharing ‘trans woman booted from women’s toilets’ bollocks

i’m explaining it all wrong I know but it’s frustrating that we’re being gaslighted and made to look like spiteful women because the more ‘trusted’ using the word lightly, outlets aren’t stepping up

I understand this feeling.

I had a discussion with some friends from the USA recently where they told me they only read the Guardian and Washington post and watched CNN news.

I pointed out some historical news items that have been shown to be completely biased or actual misinformation as per those outlets in regards to the issue of gender identity. And how the DM got the facts correct albeit with a sensational headline that didn’t match the tone of the article at all.

I even pointed out the original source of information and they were quite shocked. They had such trust in those outlets but this shook that trust.