Existence

[proximalhumerous]

I would like to start a movement whereby every time you hear (or read) the insidious and disingenuous phrase, "Trans women exist," the automatic response should be, "Woman exist."

Anyone like to join up?

Loving this one.

Bleeurgh ha ha!!

When you supposed existence is entirely predicated on an ideological construct then it will inevitably be fragile and defensive.

Ladybirds exist but they're not birds.
Guinea pigs exist but they're not pigs.

I'm enjoying this. I agree that the Trojan horse one has an extra je ne sais quoi!

Couldn't find a 'trojan horses are horses' cartoon but these made me laugh

Arrff! At the post above!

Not really relevant to the theme of the thread except very tangentially but this cartoon about a Trojan horse tickled me

https://xkcd.com/3098/

I have been arguing about this on babycentre for the last few days and it’s going well 🤣

Apparently arguing against making male violence against women a sport, by allowing males to compete in women’s boxing is hugely transphobic and “gatekeeping womanhood” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

If anyone can think of any responses do let me know as I have well and truly used up all my patience 😵‍💫

Just realised I wrote "woman" instead of "women" in my OP.

Oh good lord, no wonder you're running out of patience.

"Why is it so hard to understand that they are women?"
Because they're not.

"They. Are. Not. Men."
Yes. They. Are.

"...people come in all different sizes."
Yes, but my cock and balls are so small as to be literally non-existent.

There's just no getting through to these people. I was asked the other day why I couldn't see how inhumane it is not to let the poor transwomen play women's sports, be treated in women's hospital wards and enter women's toilets.

Urgh @Boston365, you have more patience than me. I just can’t converse with people like that- it gets me too vexed 😂

’They have opted out of manhood’. FFS. They’re very welcome to opt out of masculinity- I’m all for a world where any person can enjoy the masculine or feminine aspects of their personality- or both or neither. But no one is opting out of their XY chromosomes.

I usually just post this

www.boysvswomen.com

It's hard for them to find an argument against such specific results.

That is very excellent.

I’m also “transphobic and ignorant” for explaining throughout the entire thread how males with 5-ARD can end up in women’s sports and retain all the strength and advantage of males. For advocating that we centre women in their own sporting category because men who identify as women retain their physical advantage.

This is awesome!

Come on terven, do you not realise that TW are literally Tinkerbell? If they don’t have a theatre full of sugar-crazed 7 year olds screaming ‘We believe in fairies’ EVERY DAY they literally die.

(Actually I think this genuinely is the basis of far too many shit HR policies with the added disadvantage that we aren’t allowed ice creams or an interval.)

Every use of the word "existence" or "exist" that is uttered by a TRA is disingenuous bollocks.

Disagreeing with someone does not deny their existence.
Insisting of provably accurate facts does not deny the existence of someone who wishes me to believe a fantasy.
If someone shows me a banana and insists it is an apple, and I say "no it's a banana" I am not denying the existence of the fruit in question, nor saying it isn't an entirely valid and worthwhile fruit.

You can just imagjne them screeching 'Clap evil terven! Do it now!!!'

@Boston365- I think you may have just tried to disprove the old adage that ‘there’s no arguing with stupid’.

Indeed, but I simply can’t believe they can be that stupid. I think the only way that they can maintain their position is through wilful ignorance.

Jaffa cakes exist but they're not...
oh wait, a VAT tribunal in 1991 ruled that they actually are cakes not biscuits!

Slight tangent...
Breasts exist and socially women cannot go around topless (ref. the recent moobs out events where topless males clearly exist).

You have way more patience than me! What an absolute load of twaddle, how are they not embarrassed to write such nonsense?

This is on the baby centre website? And the posters on there don't believe in biology?

How did each couple decide who was going to carry the baby? Flipping coins?

Yaaaay! I love it!