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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Existence

55 replies

proximalhumerous · 09/06/2025 13:14

I would like to start a movement whereby every time you hear (or read) the insidious and disingenuous phrase, "Trans women exist," the automatic response should be, "Woman exist."

Anyone like to join up?

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Raquelos · 09/06/2025 14:04

I'm in.

I also move that "transwomen are women" should be universally met with "hot dogs are dogs"

proximalhumerous · 09/06/2025 14:05

Raquelos · 09/06/2025 14:04

I'm in.

I also move that "transwomen are women" should be universally met with "hot dogs are dogs"

Yay! Welcome.

And re. hotdogs: indeed. 🙄

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teawamutu · 09/06/2025 14:22

I usually say seahorses/rocking horses are horses, but sure.

The 'exist' phrase gives me the absolute pip. best response contained in my favourite ever tweet (attached, you're welcome).

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proximalhumerous · 09/06/2025 14:30

Excellent!

And it's not as if anyone could possibly have failed to notice that they exist, is it?

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 09/06/2025 14:32

It’s an anodyne statement. You can add your own qualifying statement , I guess.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 09/06/2025 14:34

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 09/06/2025 14:32

It’s an anodyne statement. You can add your own qualifying statement , I guess.

It's a thought terminating cliche, designed to crush any ideas of dissent.

FluffykinsTheFerociousFeralFelineFury · 09/06/2025 14:45

People who mutilate their bodies with unnecessary surgery exist, I don't think anybody is denying that.

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 14:48

My usual response to 'Transwomen exist' is 'so do flat-earthers' but it's a bit of an unfair dig at flat-earthersGrin
I think it's not a bad response because it doesn't say that people who believe that men can become women, or that the Earth is flat, do not exist as people, of course they do; it's the reality of what they believe in that doesn't exist.

Waitwhat23 · 09/06/2025 15:14

Handy meme

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TheOtherRaven · 09/06/2025 15:24

teawamutu · 09/06/2025 14:22

I usually say seahorses/rocking horses are horses, but sure.

The 'exist' phrase gives me the absolute pip. best response contained in my favourite ever tweet (attached, you're welcome).

Love this.

But essentially someone else's existential crisis is a 'them' problem and not a 'me' problem. Unless they intend to pay me by the hour at standard therapist rates.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/06/2025 15:38

I usually respond "yes, but so do female people. Two different groups, both exist, both have diiferent needs. We need to recognise both of them not just try to force trans women into things that were set up for female people whether they are a good fit or not"

Shortshriftandlethal · 09/06/2025 16:30

People with trans identities indeed do exist.........but their 'existence' as a woman' ( if male) depends entirely on other people believing or affirming that.

There is no male in existence who is really a woman.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/06/2025 16:52

I struggle with the ‘society doesn’t want us to exist!’ Trope often used by transactivists.

I don’t give two hoots about them existing, but that’s not what they mean of course.

existance = having all my demands acceded to and everyone pretending they perceive me as a member of the opposite sex

another example of words changing their meanings in careless hands I guess

MoominMai · 09/06/2025 17:35

If someone says to me ‘Trans women exist’ I will reply, ‘‘I believe men identifying as women exist’’. I will call them MIAWs.

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2025 17:36

Loan sharks are sharks.

soupycustard · 09/06/2025 17:37

Love some of these! I'm all in!

proximalhumerous · 09/06/2025 17:38

So, so far we have:
Hot dogs are dogs
Anacondas are not gerbils
Sea horses are horses
Rocking horses are horses
Pantomime horses are horses
Men identifying as women exist

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JanesLittleGirl · 09/06/2025 18:11

Curry combs exist but nobody eats them.

Ddakji · 09/06/2025 18:12

As soon as they start wittering on about existence I know they’ve run out of arguments so I cease to pay them any mind.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 09/06/2025 18:16

Grapefruits are grapes... oh wait. 🤔

Dying of laughter at some of these. DD (3) has just seen the pantomime horse and asked what it was, and I told her it was a pretend horse but really a couple of people playing dress up.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 09/06/2025 18:17

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 09/06/2025 18:16

Grapefruits are grapes... oh wait. 🤔

Dying of laughter at some of these. DD (3) has just seen the pantomime horse and asked what it was, and I told her it was a pretend horse but really a couple of people playing dress up.

And the logical extension of grapefruits not being grapes, for my fellow tech women, javascript is not java.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/06/2025 18:29

Transplants exist, but they’re not plants.

mrshoho · 09/06/2025 18:50

Slush puppies exist but they ain't actual real life Puppies

NextRinny · 09/06/2025 18:52

Urinal cakes etc etc etc

PriOn1 · 09/06/2025 19:03

Trojan horses are horses was my favourite for a while as it had the added nuance of something that gained entry under false pretenses.