The new “this is what a woman looks like” campaign

[Rumplestiltz]

Apologies if this has been covered somewhere else, but I saw these billboards driving through an area of london today.
https://lgbt.foundation/thisiswhatawomanlookslike/
good lord I nearly crashed the car. This is the whole thing they just don’t get! It’s not about what we “look like”! We can look how we want! It’s about the biological reality of womanhood - menstruation, fertility, infertility, pregnancy, menopause. All the shit that goes with that. Not whether you have long hair and a pink top.

This is what circling the drain looks like...

I have to stand up for the rights of the nonbinary person I know who's a public school educated Oxbridge graduate who earns twice what I do?

Well I don't really, do I, because the Supreme Court ruling reaffirmed their rights under the Equality Act. All good.

I'm sure someone will be along with one they've made very soon.

I puts me in mind of the Sesame St song, 'One of these things is not like the other ones.......' 😂😂😂😂

I find this gaslighty. It’s like the campaigns around mastectomies and normalising wonky boobs for younger women and girls, which are important for women.

once again the appropriation of female centred initiatives with wolves in sheep’s clothing.

this would be a very interesting move

much of this is young to be unlawful now

Well, it already was, but it’s going to be easier to report it 😁

Women are amazing. We are a ‘rich diverse tapestry’ already. We don’t need you to add men into the category to make us more amazing.

Maybe some men need help to recognise the enormous range of ways there are to be men, and to celebrate that. That is the way to improve life for transwomen

Men are not women

There have always been people who believe nonsense, you cant stop that. The difference today is they have the Internet to broadcast their nonsense.

Fortunately the vast majority see it as nonsense.

It was really the state of the person in the picture that irritated me.

Yes. As a man or as a woman. SC said nothing about non binary (it’s meaningless).

I'd like to know what rights DON'T they have? I feel sorry for those of you who live in big cities and have to put up with this. I live in a small Welsh village and don't have any of this nonsense.

Absolutely, and it is usually us here that get accused of 'othering'.

https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

😉

Well strictly speaking unless they/thems is being NB on their way to gender reassignment they are not centred or even mentioned in the EA2010. This may precipitate a crisis so you’d better get round there with emotional support Teddy bears now PermanentTemporary.

ASA (advertising standards people)?

If GC women start wearing those T Shirts how are they going to react?

I was thinking the same thing - but since us GC women don't conform to a type, it wouldn't 'read' as a subversion of the message. It would probably be taken as a gesture of support😱

I'm sure somebody can come up with a clever GC version

That’s it - This is What a Woman Looks Like - with a little “GC Edition” tag or stamp across the corner 🤣

…or ‘Reality Edition’

Formal complaint to the ASA made (link to their complaints page above)

LGBT Foundation is encouraging people to sign a pledge stating: This is What a Woman looks Like.
They include (pictorially and in text) trans women amongst a list of types of women. The April 16th Supreme Court Judgement confirmed that the legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex, and that therefore a Trans Woman is legally a man. Equally a Trans Man is legally a woman.

In including trans women, and excluding trans men in their examples of women, the LGBT Foundation is misleading the public with inaccurate photography and text descriptions. It discriminates against Trans Men (who are legally female / women) as their pledge based on 'This is what a woman looks like' excludes them. It discriminates against women, by including men in both the photography and the text (trans women - confirmed by the Supreme Court to be biologically men).

It is deceiving the public into believing that they are fighting to protect and support women, when the LGBT Foundation is a) including men, and b) prioritising men over women with their 'Pledge to protect trans and non-binary people' (but only including trans women (men) in their definitions). Anyone signing up to this pledge is actually pledging something very different to how it is being portrayed and this is deceptive.

Trans Men (who are legally women) are excluded from those being promoted / protected / supported, whereas Trans Women (legally men) are being included, as the premise of their campaign is to be women only this is sex discrimination under the Equality Act:
- it doesn't include all women
- it doesn't include all men
As is clear from the Supreme Court Judgement if there is exclusion based on protected characteristics (e.g. focusing only on women) which is an acceptable approach, it is not acceptable where there are partial uses of protected characteristics, or several protected characteristics unless all are included - so this is in breach of the Equality Act.

^It should be noted that this promotional material (photography and text) is current on bill boards / their website / social media- the uploaded copy is from the page of their website. It is also archived here: archive.is/Dwmla^

I also complained. And said that for the last 10 years charities had been conflating sex and gender which has created lots of problems for everyone (listed examples for women, trans men and general population). I said that after 16th of April this was now clearly misleading and very offensive. I think it’s defo worth a complaint citing the clarification of the law and how the past similar activities have caused damage so this is t a small thing to be tolerated any more

@akkakk excellent.
Very well put about the exclusion of transmen.
I assume that is okay in the view of the LGBT Foundation because TMAM?

I had an idea, while waiting outside Waitrose, for an art project titled. Women at Waitrose, a board of photos of individuals, covering all the classes there, women with hairbands who drove BMWs, and dressed to match, frumpy women who just wore any old thing, slim women, fat women. Tall women, short women, women of African origin, or Chinese, or Indian, farmers, women on the school run, women with ample bosoms or flat as a pancake, old women, young women, traveller women, women from offices, cleaner women, And the subtitle "This is what women look like".
Shot that down, haven't they?
Probably wouldn't have done it. anyway.