Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

A worthy woman seems to be:

one who chooses to take a large cut in earnings at the start of her career to cover the vital campaign to protect female sports categories.

will pay for all her accrued costs out of her own pocket unless she gets donations, and she cannot actively seek donations or provide any merchandise or content for those donations.

will take abuse and never discuss it publicly lest it might be seen as unkind to the abuser, or capitalising on unasked and unprovoked abuse from public figures, or just merely unkind, likely unwomanly.

will remain silent unless the media or campaign supporters who are perceived as having the exact credentials takes an interest in her campaign.

will always remember that she never gained Olympic medals and she was just a sore loser in 5th place.

will never mention any other issues that she is interested in.

Is on the speaker circuit and has her name with various agencies where she talks about … stuff not related to swimming.

will just absorb any abuse she receives and not respond publicly at all, not even mildly.

will never accept an interview on Fox to promote their campaign to as wide an audience as possible.

The thing is that @JessaWoo knows that Riley is absolutely right on this one.

But that doesn't fit the narrative, so she has to try and discredit her in any way possible.

It seems to me we've had a succession of posters on this long thread who will say they actually agree with Riley, but for whatever reason they really don't want to allow Riley to ever be in the right, so we get a lot of snark insinuating that she's a bad faith actor.

She's not the only woman who gets this treatment (KJK, who I admit is not everyone's cup of tea, gets it often, Rosie Duffield gets it sometimes)

It would be helpful to have a list of the women who we don't assume are bad faith actors. Or, alternatively, we could act like adults and ditch all this Regina George crap.

Interestingly, Riley hasn't posted anything on TwiX about Simonegate since 11th June. That's the day after Simone's apology, which came on Tuesday the 10th. Nothing about it on her Instagram either. I don't have TikTok or any of the other social media channels people in their 20s seem to go for, perhaps anyone who does could clarify?

Also @JessaWoo since apparently you think referring to something the day after it happened amounts to dragging it out, presumably you also agree Simone was dragging the matter out when she reposted her initial attack on Riley the day after?

"she makes money off disagreements like this."

So, should no person then ever be paid for interviews and content as an activist for giving their opinion and rebutting accusations against them?

Do you really believe this? So, no public figure who makes money from their content should make money by commenting on an incident where they have had false accusations made about them and deliberately insulted?

So that includes any person or organisation who monetises their social media content, or who uses an incident to raise the profile of their campaign to receive funding.

Or is it just Riley who deserves to be denigrated this way?

I shall make sure I tell my left wing activist friend that they should stop their paid appearances on Fox because it is problematic and makes them worthy of being denigrated.

Yep.

It's particularly ridiculous because it is actually totally possible to say I think Riley is in the right on this one, shit AI aside, and in the wrong on whatever other points. I'm managing it perfectly well. Most people who've lost all their baby teeth are capable of comprehending that they will agree on some things and disagree on others with every other human being alive.

Yes. Hence the list of worthiness. I am sure those reading will be enlightened by what makes a woman worthy of having their voice valued or not.

A worthy woman seems to be:

one who chooses to take a large cut in earnings at the start of her career to cover the vital campaign to protect female sports categories.

will pay for all her accrued costs out of her own pocket unless she gets donations, and she cannot actively seek donations or provide any merchandise or content for those donations.

will take abuse and never discuss it publicly lest it might be seen as unkind to the abuser, or capitalising on unasked and unprovoked abuse from public figures, or just merely unkind, likely unwomanly.

will remain silent unless the media or campaign supporters who are perceived as having the exact credentials takes an interest in her campaign.

will always remember that she never gained Olympic medals and she was just a sore loser in 5th place.

will never mention any other issues that she is interested in.

Is on the speaker circuit and has her name with various agencies where she talks about … stuff not related to swimming.

will just absorb any abuse she receives and not respond publicly at all, not even mildly.

will never accept an interview on Fox to promote their campaign to as wide an audience as possible.

It is tribalist and absolutist.

I noticed that.

I am sure now that Simone was not held to the same standards.

I’m quite aware thanks, and it certainly isn’t just a right wing phenomenon, whatever your bubble thinks.

"Fox would have loved to have her on" referred to Biles. Yes, I know Fox regularly features Riley Gaines, but they would have been trying to book Biles - she is after all the GOAT and people are interested in her views on men in women's sports.

They would have given her an opportunity to explain what she meant, what she thought the solution might be, why she thought Riley should be the one to campaign for a solution, why she body shamed her. Any news outlet would have been desperate to hear from her.

You can't blame Riley Gaines for taking full advantage of the media opportunities available to her while letting Biles off the hook.

Yes, does anyone seriously think Simone's publicity people weren't inundated with interview requests over this?! Both she and Riley are identical in that they made the most sensible decision about interviews. The only difference is that Riley is better off going on, Simone isn't.

Btw Biles' X account describes herself as "Wife. Olympic Champion". I personally find that incredibly wierd - it is giving off American trad wife vibes. I am not sure that Biles won't turn out to be conservative in some respects too.

People often do that with their X bios - I think Obama's is something like "husband, dad, president" - so I don't read anything ideological into it.

But there is a thing with African-American women, who vote Democrat by margins that even Putin would think ridiculous, but who often hold views at odds with the party's metro-trendy elites.

I think it's perfectly in keeping with her apparent wish to centre males in sport. And not just for HER to centre them, but the expectation that Riley (and presumably other women) should do likewise.

Riley is politically Conservative but she is here for women, and (unfortunately) increasingly the only way pro-women advocates can get a hearing these days is through right-wing channels. I wish the left hadn't thrown women and girls under a bus, but that seems to be the way the dice has rolled these days and we have to work with what we have. Hence why Julie Bindell will speak to the Daily Mail.

I think it's somewhat different when a man does it. Obama will have faced prejudice on account of his race but he won't have had to contend with the effects of millennia of sex-based oppression.

Simone can do whatever she likes but I personally wish history's most decorated gymnast had made a different choice (particularly in view of her apparently other male-centric views).

She posted yesterday.

I’m not sure you do, given your inaccurate description. And I didn’t describe it as merely a right-wing phenomenon, either.

Not seen that, where?

But anyway, you were posting about dragging it out yesterday morning UK time when the Americans were still in bed, so you must have been referring to the stuff Riley did on Wednesday. The day after Simone's apology. This means you think acknowledging something one day after is dragging it out.

With that in mind, are you going to apply your silly one day standard to Simone's repost last weekend, or will it be different rules for her?

She has not posted on Twitter about Simone Biles.

She has posted on other issues.

The thing is I appreciate Riley Gaines as a women’s rights campaigner. Her conservatism? Not so much, particularly when it marries with evangelical Christianity. I don’t see women’s rights sitting well on those ideological platforms.

LOL.

So now she shouldn't be posting about other issues either, @JessaWoo ?

I’m not going to argue with you, but she has. This one was posted a day ago.

x.com/outnumberedfnc/status/1932847099819004006?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

Yet you will do anything you can to undermine her efforts while not acknowledging that you are doing so. But that is what you are doing. These are based on the arguments that you have used on this thread.

A worthy woman seems to be:

one who chooses to take a large cut in earnings at the start of her career to cover the vital campaign to protect female sports categories.

will pay for all her accrued costs out of her own pocket unless she gets donations, and she cannot actively seek donations or provide any merchandise or content for those donations.

will take abuse and never discuss it publicly lest it might be seen as unkind to the abuser, or capitalising on unasked and unprovoked abuse from public figures, or just merely unkind, likely unwomanly.

will remain silent unless the media or campaign supporters who are perceived as having the exact credentials takes an interest in her campaign.

will always remember that she never gained Olympic medals and she was just a sore loser in 5th place.

will never mention any other issues that she is interested in.

Is on the speaker circuit and has her name with various agencies where she talks about … stuff not related to swimming.

will just absorb any abuse she receives and not respond publicly at all, not even mildly.

will never accept an interview on Fox to promote their campaign to as wide an audience as possible.

Even better....

She must control all other people's and organisations posts.