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The Bluestocking Women’s Pub - Where Everybody Knows Your Username

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MarieDeGournay · 02/06/2025 17:01

Welcome to the Bluestocking Arms, the home of good company, excellent drinks and delicious cakes which magically have no irksome contents like gluten or sugar or calories or the kind of alcohol that causes problems - but you wouldn't knowSmile

Food and drink are served by a keen staff of gerbils, and other animals such as capybaras, quokkas, etc., also fulfil vital roles, while looking cute AF.

New Bluestockingers always welcome.

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ErrolTheDragon · 09/06/2025 11:41

Boiledbeetle · 09/06/2025 11:10

OK can someone explain to me how I, a beetle of distinction, end up with knitting needles stuck in my ears, but the gerbils, THE GERBILS , can look at a ball of wool and some knitting needles and suddenly they are all top level knitters, wandering around in knitted jumpers.

It's just not on.

Well yes. While they may not have true opposable thumbs, gerbils have dexterous little paws. Whereas beetles - how can I put this tactfully? - er, don’t. TBH I’m a bit surprised you manage to unwrap a Tunnocks so skilfully. Best stick to what you know?

CautiousLurker01 · 09/06/2025 11:46

Have been looking up patterns for squares, fallen down the rabbit hole and decided to knit my DD a blanket/throw this summer for her bed at uni in Sept. She hung on to her baby blanket until it fell to pieces when she was a teenager. Am remembering that it was her bedtime hug as she is so sensitive to textures/heat, and it smelled of her/home, so I’m going to knit something for her now too.

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 11:55

That's a lovely idea, Lurky, your DD will love that! And it has time between now and September to absorb some smells of home to bring with her to UniSmile

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CautiousLurker01 · 09/06/2025 12:05

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 11:55

That's a lovely idea, Lurky, your DD will love that! And it has time between now and September to absorb some smells of home to bring with her to UniSmile

And some dog hairs!! Yes, I am really excited to do this for her. Then I can do one for my son for next year. I have for years been saving the ‘better’ fabric from my husband’s shirts because I was one day going to use the fabric to make a quilted bedspread, but haven’t had time to do a course to learn the quilting bit, so this is a little thing I can do for both of them now.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 12:10

I’m delighted to see how enthusiastically the gerbils have taken to knitting. They seem to be very good at just one pattern.

One thing that not been mentioned for their ordinary squares (and may not apply to Swash’s special ones) is Woolly Hugs ask you to use a 4mm needle or crochet hook. Also, squares which are slightly too small are better than ones which are slightly too big - so if you’re wondering whether to do one more row/round, don’t.

Ours will all be made with love for our dear Swashy, which is the most important thing.

Scoffslaw · 09/06/2025 12:10

Sadly knitting is not in my skill set - my DM used to despair of me. The blanket is a lovely idea.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 12:13

Lurky, if at any time over the summer you feel there’s something you ought to be doing but you don’t want to, you now have the perfect reason not to do it as you need to spend time on your DD’s blanket.

CautiousLurker01 · 09/06/2025 12:19

@JuneShellChangeHerTune I love a valid procrastination activity!!

ErrolTheDragon · 09/06/2025 12:28

CautiousLurker01 · 09/06/2025 12:19

@JuneShellChangeHerTune I love a valid procrastination activity!!

I’m not sure it’s proper procrastination if it’s productive.

EdithStourton · 09/06/2025 12:56

@CautiousLurker01 you don't need to go on a course to learn to do patchwork and quilt - there are plenty of books and probably also tutorials on YouTube.

My DC all trotted off to uni with various items of homemade bedding.

MyrtleLion · 09/06/2025 13:23

I found Caribbean Sea and Blue Steel wool to knit some plain squares. I think those colours are appropriate for Swashy. The sea for her ship and steel for her inner strength.

I'm not back till Wednesday night but I'll see if I can remember stocking stitch.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 13:35

Myrtle, garter stitch (knit every stitch) gives an interesting texture if you find knitting easier than purling. It would be a nice contrast as many squares with a design on will have stocking stitch as a background.

It will change your tension, though. I think it means you would need fewer rows.

Stocking stitch is a link to The Bluestocking, though.

DeanElderberry · 09/06/2025 13:55

A true Story:

Last August it was suggested that the members of the craft group I go to on Mondays do a joint project involving making knitted and crocheted squares, adorning the ones that seemed too plain, and joining them together. This all had a theme linked to an early medieval woman.

I said a bit sadly that I couldn't crochet and that although I was taught knitting at school I'd forgotten how.

Over the next few weeks I realised that maybe I did still know how to knit. I rootled in cupboards and found long-forgotten needles and balls of yarn. I started to knit.

So did everyone else.

Our skill levels varied, the yarn we used was of different thicknesses and fibres, our needles and hooks were of different gauges: it is quite astonishing how much 8" squares can vary in size. And shape.

We did have a unifying colour scheme (green). Some of us stuck to it. One friend found a stash of purply-brown squares that she'd made 20 years ago and never used, and stuck them into the mix (which was really sneaky). They looked very good, mixed with all the greens.

The great day came for sewing together. We started by joining four small squares into one larger one. The canny among us tried to ensure we started with four same-sized squares. Sometimes we were thwarted when pals raided us when our backs were turned because they coveted a particular colour or pattern. We learned that crochet squares are easier to squash and warp to shape than knitted ones. Further crochet was deployed to enlarge some particularly small offerings. I still can't crochet, so had no part in that, but I had knitted 12+ squares and did plenty of stitching together.

Then we started to join our 4-squares together to make 16-squares. As you may imagine, the size differences were adding up, and although the middle of each 16-square was neat and precise, the outsides beginning to form exceedingly non-straight edges.

At that stage, out oldest member, well into her 80s, took over. We were ordered to stop knitting, she took everything home. She joined all the blocks together. Where necessary she knitted little unifying strips in a harmonious colour. She prodded it and tweaked it and brought it back to us looking - transformed.

It was perfect, just what our early medieval woman would have wanted.

Since December it's been displayed in churches and community halls, in a tourist office and a heritage centre. We all look at it beadily making sure our own squares are holding up to all the excitement.

I'm still doing a bit of knitting (I have mittens all ready for next winter) but always using stuff from stashes or charity shops - the nearest wool shop is 25 miles away and ordering from UK suppliers has been complicated by customs regulation.

I love the idea of Swash's blanket, but the degree of organisation and co-ordination is daunting in the extreme - so very different from our anarchic approach.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 14:05

A great story, @DeanElderberry. I will read it several times more.

I love the idea of Swash's blanket, but the degree of organisation and co-ordination is daunting in the extreme - so very different from our anarchic approach.

That may explain the requests for a limited range of yarns and colours.
Woolly Hugs volunteers are very experienced at putting all sizes of squares together to make coherent blankets: maybe it’s only the brave ones who offer to do that.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 14:13

The news on Classic FM has just had an item saying that vegetarians tend to be rebellious, and seek power and control. I missed the source for that information.

Hmmm. I thought I was a quiet little feminist, but I may be deluding myself.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 14:15

Sometimes we were thwarted when pals raided us when our backs were turned because they coveted a particular colour or pattern.

Tactfully put! 😉

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 14:55

Love your story, Deano!

Is the 80s year old woman still alive, and if so can she please take over the running of the country? and when she's sorted Ireland out, maybe move on to The World? Sounds like it would be a doddle for her!😄

edited to remove those pesky asterisks which pop up uninvited..

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lcakethereforeIam · 09/06/2025 15:00

Thought I'd show my face.

Hello Bear ❤️

I've just caught up with the thread and learned about the knitted squares. If they're not needed too soon I'll give one a go although I've not knitted anything for ages so I make no promises. I'd feel honoured if I managed to make one.

In other news Neville, my sebaceous cyst, is infected and I'm now on antibiotics. I must, subconsciously maybe, been expecting it. Otherwise why did I pick a name with 'evil' in it?

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 15:08

lcakethereforeIam · 09/06/2025 15:00

Thought I'd show my face.

Hello Bear ❤️

I've just caught up with the thread and learned about the knitted squares. If they're not needed too soon I'll give one a go although I've not knitted anything for ages so I make no promises. I'd feel honoured if I managed to make one.

In other news Neville, my sebaceous cyst, is infected and I'm now on antibiotics. I must, subconsciously maybe, been expecting it. Otherwise why did I pick a name with 'evil' in it?

I think there's lots of time to knit squares, so dust off those knitting needles...
I hope the anti-bios do the trick and get rid of the Resident Evil, and you feel much better soonSmile

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MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 15:18

. Other studies have shown that they get far more negative feedback about their lifestyle choices than omnivores. “If you look at it through that lens, it starts to make sense: to maintain a vegetarian diet, a certain psychological toughness might be required,” he said.

The article makes a good point about attitudes to vegetarians - I'm shocked at how readily people sneer at 'holier-that-thou' vegetarians and atheists, without any prompting.

As I am both vegetarian and atheist, does that qualify me as Most Marginalised?Grin.. sorry that should of course be 😭

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DeanElderberry · 09/06/2025 15:26

Our 80s-y-o woman is very much alive and was all over this week's local paper for something else she was fundrasing for. She would indeed be good at running the country, though I also think the nice young people who work in Lidl and Aldi would do a splendid job.

One hot day a month or so back I was distraught to realise I'd gone home without one bag of shopping, but when I got back to Lidl I found Tatiana had carefully closed the zip to keep everything cool, and positioned it on the packing shelf where she could make sure nobody else nicked it. So nice when someone shows initiative.

Anyhow, @lcakethereforeIam, sebaceous cysts, when darling Hector the dog's ENORMOUS c s burst, leaking god-knows-what all-over-everywhere, the vet gave us a spray-on antibiotic to make sure he didn't pick anything nasty, so for weeks we had to conduct a fluffy grey dog with a bright blue arse around with us. I thought you and Neville should know.

Igneococcus · 09/06/2025 15:38

I had a sebaceous cyst on my back next to my spine right under the bra strap that got inflamed. I've taken antibiotics for it twice and had a GP drain it but it came back a third time just before I was due to go to India for work. I didn't want to damage my gut microbiome just before going to India so I used tea tree oil against it. Undiluted, that is not recommended but my skin was fine. I drenched a small piece of paper towel with the tea tree oil and stuck it onto the inflamed cyst with a plaster, or rather dp did because I couldn't reach it myself. It disappeared and hasn't been back, that's about ten years ago now.

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 15:41

Thank you for the link, @Igneococcus . I recorded the next Classic FM news, at 3pm, and the study wasn’t mentioned. Perhaps it only applies to people living in the US or Poland, as only they were studied.

No, no, Marie. I’m not atheist but I’m sure I can think of some other protected characteristic to make me the Most Marginalised. It is a competition, isn’t it?
I’m vegetarian, and Northern, in exile. That should do it.

MarieDeGournay · 09/06/2025 17:44

JuneShellChangeHerTune · 09/06/2025 15:41

Thank you for the link, @Igneococcus . I recorded the next Classic FM news, at 3pm, and the study wasn’t mentioned. Perhaps it only applies to people living in the US or Poland, as only they were studied.

No, no, Marie. I’m not atheist but I’m sure I can think of some other protected characteristic to make me the Most Marginalised. It is a competition, isn’t it?
I’m vegetarian, and Northern, in exile. That should do it.

😂

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