Is there a name for this?

[Confusedpleaseeducateme]

Pardon my ignorance. But can anyone help? Genuine question. Just a NC

I say that I'm GC as I don't believe you can change sex. However I strongly believe you should go where your genitals match. E. G. If you've COMPLETELY transitioned then use that toilet.
By all means say you're a different gender (and I'll just roll my eyes internally) but personally I don't have a problem if a true TW uses the ladies facilities. I just don't want to share female spaces with a penis!

I don't believe TWAW. I believe they are TW.

Does that make sense? Please be gentle... First time posting on this board but been reading a long time but don't recall seeing anyone saying anything about this? But I could just be being dull... Menopausal brain!

Angry men strip in public and tell women to be afraid?

Persuasive.

Butterfly should write dramatic and overwrought novels. I feel that a calling has been missed.

Yep, I'm lost.

Blimey! 'desperate women expressing their grief'? I think you are quite correct Seethlaw. I think that we are being told that some male people have appropriated feminist protest actions and this is being framed as desperate women expressing their grief...

When described accurately, it produces a rather different emotional response doesn't it?

I was going to ask about that.

Is it the topless.march at which a convicted torturer, kidnapper and attempted murderer¹ shouted through a megaphone that women should be afraid? Or is it the piss protests?

¹ For clarity, that's all 1 person.

It's as if denying biological reality eventually completely untethers you from all reality

I think you do great harm to your cause when you resort to the same brand of body shaming so frequently weaponised against any women who are deemed to not adhere to patriarchal standards of beauty.

The threads on this forum over the last week or so on the subject have been really quite eye-opening. I was expecting at least some mild 'hold on a moment, what are we even about' but there's just nothing but sneering hate in evidence.

I suspect this is at least partially due to the ongoing feminist exodus from here.

Alas I don't have a nice cosy family-owned coffee shop nearby to reside in while doing so.

Body shaming? Body shaming?!

You think our objecrion to that vile display is how they look?

We’re not body shaming women, we’re discussing why when men want to protest things they resort to taking off their clothes or throwing urine everywhere as well as the usual death and rape threats. . I mean… are those tactics really going to persuade women that those men belong in women’s spaces as they are vulnerable? I’d think exactly the opposite. Let us in or we’ll rape you and beat you and kill you is not a good way to negotiate compromise is it?

Any criticism of indecent exposure, or flashing has been recast as 'body shaming'. It's not their fault they feel so grief stricken they are compelled to get naked in public!

(See also Wi Spa, where women were attacked for protesting at the naked voyeur).

You don't have to emulate JKR, try going your own way.

It really seems that these male people will appropriate anything they associate with being ‘a woman’. Men take their tops off all the time and walk around. Even those with breast development.

But pointing this out is now ‘body shaming’. It really is quite startling when you realise how far a group of male people will go to appropriate the aspects of life they view as being female. And when people don’t react with shock that male people got their tops off, it just seems to anger that group of people more.

Poor you. No wonder you feel oppressed.

I suspect this is at least partially due to the ongoing feminist exodus from here.

As if we needed confirmation that this poster lives in their own la-la-land where words mean only what they want them to mean.

I suspect this is at least partially due to the ongoing feminist exodus from here

There's a whole other board for the nice feminists, who didn't want to be here with the grotty nasty feminists, and wanted a board where they could talk about all the feminist things they were passionately wanting to talk about (but couldn't because of the grotty nasty feminists). HQ created them a board of their own to help them out. Sadly there isn't a lot of traffic, certainly nothing to compare with here. Women seem to be managing ok, ta .

I made no body shaming comments. I am talking about the bold, convention-breaking, sheer audacity and aggression in what they did. This is typical of the men who want access to women's spaces - barging in, mocking our objections, being as provocative as possible. I'm not talking about the state of their artificial boobs or how well they pass or my thoughts on women going topless in public generally.

If men wish to stand and bare themselves in public as a gesture, they are inviting people to look and comment.

That's what they are doing it for. That the comments and perceptions of others are not what they want them to be is an ongoing and very serious issue for this gender ideology movement as a whole.

I'm pretty sure those men will never meet patriarchal standards of beauty.