Have I completely misunderstood GCSE biology...

[proximalhumerous]

...or is the purpose of spotting an anomaly not specifically to disregard it in order that it doesn't lead to an inaccurate conclusion?

If so, why is everyone fixating on DSDs as "proof" that sex is a spectrum, when the anomalous 1.7% (if indeed it is as high as that - from what I've read that figure is only achieved if you include conditions such as PCOS which have a tenuous claim at best to be one of the "intersex" variations) is clearly a set of results that don't fit. Because something has deviated from the norm. It's not like calculating the mean of a range of heights, FFS.

Please can someone more scientific than me explain what is going on here? Or is it simply that certain factions are so hell-bent on arguing that anyone with ladyfeels can be a woman they're happy to completely disregard any sort of science or logic in order to do so?

Think it might also be in reference to my suggesting that using people with painful, distressing medical conditions as a human shield for entitled men was a bit off.

Appaz it's fine if they don't actually hurt?

It means, as science knows, humans are bimodal

like this?

Yes, I was counting the point that if a man doesn't produce sperm how does he know what sex he is.

Yeah. Ancient knowledge, that.

It’s like saying that how many fingers you have on each hand is a spectrum because there are rare cases of people with six or seven digits instead of the regular five.

I'd love to know the answer to this.

I am not sure how arguing sex classification is impossible helps trans people. Doesn’t it mean that sex should no longer be registrated and recognised in law? if nothing is segregated in men and women anymore, is that what makes transwomen happy? To always share with men?

Do you think we will get the ‘bimodal graph’ without any labels on the axes?

It doesn’t but may help you understand GCSE biology.

ERM no. Gamete production does NOT determine sex, as those who produce both or neither prove every single day.
We may think of a type of gamete as being male or female gamete, but that is a anything.

And no, it's not about 'round production of a particular of gamete' as those who produce BOTH are proof of. (Please actually read the medical research referred to).

There simply is NO SINGLE THING that determines anything about what we call "sex".
The approx 240,000,000 people alive right now with intersex traits or incongruence prove that....as is accepted by global medical science.

To cut this short....if anyone could tell me JUST ONE medical oversight body that suggests sex to be a strict binary....tell me who that is and where that assertion could be verified..... THAT would be worthy of reply.

If not.....just reading something about actual human biology would assist most people.

@Anteater1 could you explain the role the SRY gene has in relation to sex determination

It’s not about the ability to produce gametes. Babies and women after menopause don’t change sex. It’s about the reality of the binary system. Why do you think there are only two types?

Just bringing this to your attention again, @Anteater1

Not another one? More than two sexes. No one knows their karotype. Intersex. Other societies. Have we added don’t check genitals yet? Surely the bingo card is full now? This gets tiresome.

So if not gamete production, what is the common characteristic between a female spider and a female pumpkin plant? You still haven’t answered.

Outliers are often referred to as having been discarded as most studies are looking at understanding the norms, most likely, usual happenings

But they are not ignored and are often the basis of new understandings

As happened with DSDs over many year else of research they are more understood and DX and treatments are being changed, improved all the time - though it remains relatively Draconian for far too many

Outliers can be statistical anomalies or the start of something interesting

In short, your argument is the sort of half arsed internet sophistry that no one really takes all that seriously, as you wouldn’t if it came down to it. And so far you haven’t given any specific examples of actual men who can get pregnant. We all know they can’t, mate.

Karyotype is the analysis of chromosomes.
The presence or absence of a Y chromosome is NOT what determines sex, but it is "typical".
Type. Not absolute.

Why does this poster remind me so much of Tandora. Wasn’t this the gubbins they spouted? So @Anteater1 if noone knows they are male or female, how do transpeople know they have the body of the wrong sex?

Why do egg farms only keep hens?

They remind me of a few nonsense spouters over the years.

"Half-arsed internet sophistry" - perfect. Add in 'male aggression and entitlement' and you've got transactivism in a nutshell.

The genes on the chromosomes are. Hence looking at genotype not just karyotypes and neither are any use in determining sex of crocodiles. Which is still defined by gametes.

Still waiting for the answer to the spider/pumpkin plant question.

I'm sure reading about the biology of incongruence would help.

And a more general comment....

It appears most of those people posting comment have absolutely zero understanding of or, indeed interest in ACTUAL human biology.

Reading before posting is always a good idea.

If you just don't like ACTUAL biology....don't use medical science facilities. It isn't a 'pick n mix' system.