Have I completely misunderstood GCSE biology...

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...or is the purpose of spotting an anomaly not specifically to disregard it in order that it doesn't lead to an inaccurate conclusion?

If so, why is everyone fixating on DSDs as "proof" that sex is a spectrum, when the anomalous 1.7% (if indeed it is as high as that - from what I've read that figure is only achieved if you include conditions such as PCOS which have a tenuous claim at best to be one of the "intersex" variations) is clearly a set of results that don't fit. Because something has deviated from the norm. It's not like calculating the mean of a range of heights, FFS.

Please can someone more scientific than me explain what is going on here? Or is it simply that certain factions are so hell-bent on arguing that anyone with ladyfeels can be a woman they're happy to completely disregard any sort of science or logic in order to do so?

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Lol, that was insightful. Sad to see it go to so much waste….

Awwww but you were so amusing. Shame. Ido like it when we get comedians dropping in

Fear not, Howse is here now

Ah, I see the TRA late shift is here to take over...

Yay!, the laughs will still be coming then. I do love it when he appears. Bets on how soon before the misogyny amd racism appear? I say2 pages.

Too generous Nameless!

And having not yet backed up your claims with evidence.

The version I read didn't say he had no sex markers.

It says
"He has neither testicles nor ovaries, his body has never produced sex hormones and he did not develop either male or female characteristics."

But what about chromosomes? They must show something. He must have some form of genitals, no one is just smooth like a doll, how does he pee without anything?

And I'm not going to travel a couple of hours away to my "nearest" uni to access the library when you could actually explain it to me as you claim to understand it.

Do you reckon They do like tag wrestling and fist bump as they pass? Who did the rota? Do you think Howse has upset them? Imagine having to come here on a Friday night to scold unruly women rather than having fun with friends. I almost feel sorry for him.

You can't argue with stupid. Something we're probably all thinking.

Regarding Y. He must have had at least one X chromosome or he wouldn't have survived birth. He was born at least forty years prior to the court case. I'd assume probably fifty or more, assuming he was given testosterone to mimic puberty. At that time Doctors may well have flipped a coin or asked his parents what sex child they wanted. Medical ethics and the diagnosis of intersex conditions were different back then.

There's nothing about his specific condition or what treatment/surgery he was given except the aforementioned testosterone.

Lacking much in the way of information on his condition, with so much medical information missing, his case says nothing except what people want to read into it.

It's a zombie stat that even Fausto Sterling admits was over egged. 1.5% of the 1.7% have Non-classical Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, which is not a condition that causes any doubt about sex classification.

If it's used by the OHCHR it just suggests they are fallible.

So the whole argument rests on the medical knowledge of almost a century ago?

Well you didn't read because I had not read nor responded to your comment up until now....

The BMC website doesmention 1% but is based on a hilariously shite report by GIRES.

Ah GIRES. Founded by two people, who if I recall correctly don't have a medical qualification between them.

And who hounded what was called the Intersex Society, to join forces with them.

The Intersex Society relentlessly refused and eventually, in desperation, put an open letter on the Internet to say they didn't appreciate being pressurised. And they didn't agree with the premise GIRES were advocating for.

They said they were targeted by GIRES, because some people who have DSDs, have surgery, and GIRES wanted them to set up a dual campaign to promote surgery for trans identified men.

Totally unsurprising that GIRES now claim DSD statistics to promote their own agenda.

I think the argument is that there should be 3 options: male, female and other. And at birth parents can choose other if their child has a dsd.
You should also be able to change your birth certificate if there was a medical mistake on your initial registration.

But @Anteater1is not arguing for the removal of sex based rights, I think, as they are ignoring any questions about that. So female and male sex based rights stay female or male. But not sure how the 'other' classification would work as they would not qualify for either of the other two sex based rights

If you are a man wanting to become a father, who do you need to do most of the work? Another man? A transwoman? Someone with Klinefelter's?

Ell oh ell

Every Biologist states that sex is binary.

If it isn't, please tell us what the third gamete is. We'll wait.

PS: The WHO also said that COVID wasn't airborne.
And, that masks weren't necessary. Lol. Yeah. So....
Yeah, they're a discredited organisation.

There is not one actual credible qualified Biologist that says sex isn't binary. They will say gender isn't. But not sex.

Their chromosomes will show their sex.

Some babies may be born with three legs. We don't say that humans are not just a biped species but a tri-ped one a well.

It's called a MEDICAL ANOMALY.

Group 1 -

Group 2 -

Group 3 -

Can you post JUST ONE example of a 'medical oversight' that says sex is a spectrum and there are three gametes? JUST ONE.

'Medical oversight bodies' are made up of.....PROFESSIONALS.