Have I completely misunderstood GCSE biology...

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...or is the purpose of spotting an anomaly not specifically to disregard it in order that it doesn't lead to an inaccurate conclusion?

If so, why is everyone fixating on DSDs as "proof" that sex is a spectrum, when the anomalous 1.7% (if indeed it is as high as that - from what I've read that figure is only achieved if you include conditions such as PCOS which have a tenuous claim at best to be one of the "intersex" variations) is clearly a set of results that don't fit. Because something has deviated from the norm. It's not like calculating the mean of a range of heights, FFS.

Please can someone more scientific than me explain what is going on here? Or is it simply that certain factions are so hell-bent on arguing that anyone with ladyfeels can be a woman they're happy to completely disregard any sort of science or logic in order to do so?

Says someone who clearly has never had a baby or registered one. Do you think you just pop along and the registrar says ‘so what sex shall we assigned to your baby?’

Could you quote the part from the research you linked to that says male humans have given birth

That's not "assignment of sex" that's registering the birth. It's not some arbitrary process. If there is any ambiguity as to which sex the baby is then genetic studies will be performed before the birth is registered.

This is a talk board, not a research seminar. If you want to rely on “evidence” you’ll have to explain it.

Had and done both, thanks

It is not "my" research
It is the medical research as published by the leading clinicians in the Journal or Neonatal and Fetal Medicine and numerous other journals

The existence of pre-natal sexing scans/tests is an inconvenient fact that blows a massive hole in your "assignment by the registrar" point

Except your argument is wrong and the “evidence” doesn’t prove it. Are you unable to understand what actual fact and evidence is?

clue: it’s not just asserting wishful thinking and making up stories, then linking to a paper that you haven’t read that shows the exact opposite.

I said the use of words 'male, female....etc' predate ANY understanding of biology.

Could be a radical new explanation for why the dinosaurs became extinct.

They couldn't have been destroyed by a comet. There was no word then for 'comet' so it couldn't have existed.

....and when medics simply CANNOT tell what sex the child might be - after every possible test - as happens in the UK and right round the world - the parent in the UK must ARBITRARILY tick one out of two boxes.
It is an administrative function

No. These days they do genetic testing on the very very small number of babies who fall into this category. Nobody arbitrarily assigns them a sex.

You are somewhat outdated in your understanding of this.

No they don't.

Homestly, what utter shit.

They will apply testing until they understand the nature of the DSD.

I'm afraid you've completely misunderstood the words "fact" and "evidence" on one hand, and 'made up, unevidenced, non factual nonsense', on the other

Male pregnancy?
I don’t think there’s been any reported case of a fully XY individual getting pregnant naturally?
Sometimes in the case of DSDs the karyotype is mixed XX/XY and pregnancy is then possible (though rare). There is a report of a natural pregnancy in someone whose karotype was 96% XY.
But not 100%, there’s no evidence of that.

I guess they toss a coin

Not so easy in the age of digital payment

This is hilarious! Do keep em coming, I love a good argument on a Friday

Interesting assertion.
You are aware that many civilisations ALWAYS recognised and reversed the fact that some people just aren't what you might describe as 'male or female', aren't you?

Hijira incoming!

Gender non conforming people have existed throughout history.

That does not mean there was ever any ambiguity about whether they were men or women

Let me guess you’ve got 2kids? It seems to be a thing with TRA posters. They all have 2kids. So I'm assuming you didn’t have your 20 week scan then? If you think sex is assigned at birth you must have missed that one. So about these males giving birth…. Where did the baby come out? Because you said it was someone “assigned male at birth”. So there must have male genitalia. So where exactly did the baby come out of? Where did it gestate? In a box?

You mean various societies imposed strict gender roles based on sex and then provided mechanisms where, usually men, could opt out of those gender roles? Can you point out an example where the basis for this was not based on sex?

Basic problem......why do you think that XY is what defines 'male'?

Male karyotype include-
XY, XYY, XXY, XXMale, 46XX46XY. and numerous trisomies

Female karyotype include-
XX, XO, XXX, XYFemale, 46XX46XY and various trisomies

The people who started selectively breeding animals and plants 12,000 years ago in order to domesticate them and enable a settled farming life had a very sophisticated understanding of biology, including the complicated ways heredity works out over generations.

The hunters who had preceded them for millennia knew about biology too, particularly abut the different behaviours of male and female animals.

And they all knew all about human sex.

tl dr: don't be so silly.

no, no we haven’t. We know you’re spouting “made up unevidenced non factual nonsense”. We totally understand what facts and evidence are and you have provided neither.