What exactly will all of these organisations do when the EHRC publishes the consultation ?

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These companies and organisations that are “waiting for guidance” (that clearly have their own legal teams or access to one to advise them) what will they do when it is published and yet again reiterates the law ?

Ignore it ?
Tantrum ?
Comply ?

What exactly are they hoping for with keep delaying ?

As I understand it (and I'm happy to be corrected) the interim guidance is pretty much what the final guidance will be - they aren't planning to actually CHANGE it as such just add more helpful examples to it.

So, assuming this is right, the law has been clarified, the guidance is out. There's absolutely NO excuse for not implementing it NOW!
Perhaps these companies need to be told this. There's nothing to wait for. It's done.

I think many will just not comply because who's going to make them?

Bringing cases to court is a long and costly process, both financially and mentally, and many folk affected just won't be up for that understandably.

I'm sad to say it, but I think we've still got a very long way to go yet...

I think some will ignore and hope people don’t have the funds or energy to sue.
Others will comply but can blame the EHRC. “We fully support you blah blah blah but our hands are tied. Look this is what the nasty mean EHRC say”
Others will comply when their insurance cover forces them to

Was there lots of "waiting for guidance" when they let men into women's spaces, into women’s sports, changed the names of women's things without consultation, decided to promote one group above all others? Hmm?

Women will always be Women.
If organisations choose to ignore the Law by not providing the SSP we require or refuse to respect the boundaries requested by Women, the threat of legal action will make them capitulate. If it’s Law, it’s the Law.

Indeed!

I think the best thing we can all do is repeatedly quote Baroness Falkner

BBC Radio 2 Women’s Hour at 10:00 today https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002cdzr?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

”I should emphasise for your listeners the Supreme Court judgement and clarification it provided is the law of the land and was the law of the land immediately. So all service providers should be getting their own legal advice on interpreting the judgement as of 16th April 2025.”

I think they'll say they'll comply, drag their heels doing that and deliberately cause uncertainty, treat gender critical women like shit on the bottom of their shoe when they seek to assert rights, and lobby like crazy in the shadows to get the government to rescue the situation with new and confounding leglislation.

Tantrum

pay JM more money

set up various groups

tantrum some more

and so the grift will continue

I actually think quite a lot of people will be up for pursuing legal action actually - given the past few years.

There is a poster who’s DP (a man) is currently requesting to join the WI as his male self rather than a male with long hair and lipstick.

Currently they’re saying no but it will be one to watch.

Pretend it's difficult to understand and not comply most likely.

Following orders from the lgbtqi companies they get guidance from.

Some won't in the shorter term, but once action is taken against one for non compliance the others will fall into line quite quickly.

The will and the backing is there to take the legal measures to ensure compliance, and the law is on that side too. It would be a pointless and expensive process to put your organisation through legal proceedings when you are clearly flouting the law and will not win, and will also have costs to pay, plus fines for non compliance.

I expect only the most ideologically captured would be so foolhardy....so the trade unions, for one.

I guess they are waiting for cases to be brought and/or for big organisations to ignore so they can follow suit.

Why there are still men in womens prisons, for example, is a fucking outrage.

Large businesses such as chain stores, bars and restaurants will implement the law fairly quickly. They have lots to lose through reputational damage, which they are acutely sensitive to, and also won't want to compromise their public liability insurances etc.

The NHS will quickly have to fall into line.....and the upcoming judgment in the Sandie Peggie case will inevitably see to that. Wes streeting seems quite unequivocal too.

I imagine large corporate workplaces will simply install more unisex facilities alogside the single sex they are obliged to by law to provide.

Entertainment venues will quickly comply.

Sports bodies will quite quickly fall into line.

School governing bodies will comply fairly quickly in spite of what the NEU does or does not say or do.

The main objectors are going to be sections of the Labour Party, the Green Party, the Lib Dems and the trade unions....all of whom are motivated by political ideology and having spent years on trans activism.

Also, as others have pointed out in a few places it’s possible that insurance may be invalid if they don’t comply

The Labour party and Kier Starmer are going to have to be very unequivocal on the matter.......because they know that Reform are waiting in the wings, and that is their main priority.

Starmer has a lot on his plate internationally at present.....but he's going to have to be clear at some point soon.....and once the government is clear ( in spite of backbench fury) then that will signal to the recalcitrants that they have to fall into line. The public has no interest in the political game playing of trans activists.

Large stores could just make all changing rooms mixed sex.

They could, and I'd be interested to see how much custom they'd lose in doing so. I wonder how many customer complaints it'd take for them to comply...

Some I think will ignore it as long as they don't think that litigation will follow. I agree about mixed sex changing rooms becoming more common.

My organisation is run, like many others, by older white men. They have no idea what this all about, have not engaged with any of it, so the 'wait until guidance' message is because they are a bit bewildered that it's a thing that is happening they now need to take notice of.

I can't see it! Currently they still tend to have single sex. If they do go the unisex route they will have to fork out for compliant cubicles ( no curtains, only solid, lockable doors)

I'm not one for shopping in big stores ( apart from J.Lewis which still has single sex facilities).....what are your experiences of the big clothing stores? What do they have?

Can you name some stores which have this arrangement?

Why would they do that if they currently have single sex, though? Adding one unisex single occupancy unit woud be far easier for them.

Some may be reluctant to comply and make it difficult for women but as night follows day, the steady stream of men claiming to be women who evidence either through their criminal sexual misbehaviour or their anti social, aggressive behaviour that they should be nowhere near undressing women and girls will sabotage themselves.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pissed-off-trannies-ehrc-protest/

We're seeing the tantrums from men who've never been told no and their useful idiot allies.