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The Government has established a Working Group to look at whether prescription of cross-sex hormones (CSH) will, like puberty blockers, should be banned to under 18s, outside of NHS (ie private & overseas providers)

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TangenitalContrivences · 21/05/2025 15:10

https://x.com/hannahsbee/status/1925153686994448830?t=5s4sVV8ctOVpXJyb4mxDqQ&s=08

The Government has established a Working Group to look at whether prescription of cross-sex hormones (CSH) will, like puberty blockers, should be banned to under 18s, outside of NHS (ie private & overseas providers). The group is expected to report back in July.

https://x.com/hannahsbee/status/1925153686994448830?s=08&t=5s4sVV8ctOVpXJyb4mxDqQ

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TangenitalContrivences · 21/05/2025 15:56

(TIM is cross https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1krzpjq/uk_considers_banning_crossgender_hormones_to/ )

However - good news all round.

Personally I think it should be at least up to 25

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FinallyASunnyDay · 21/05/2025 16:17

Excellent news. Was extremely grey.

countrysidedeficit · 21/05/2025 17:24

TangenitalContrivences · 21/05/2025 15:56

(TIM is cross https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1krzpjq/uk_considers_banning_crossgender_hormones_to/ )

However - good news all round.

Personally I think it should be at least up to 25

Cries of genocide. Threats of suicide. Natural puberty being described as "forced mutilation". Reprimands for saying "cross-sex hormones" instead of "hormone replacement therapy" (with an acknowledgement they're doing so to manipulate).

Through the looking glass distortions of language everywhere to be seen on that thread.

No, trans is definitely not a cult. Why would anyone think that. Confused

There's already comments on there about how to try and preserve "DIY" access to cross-sex hormones for children. One adult saying they want children to be sterilised and mutilated so they'll pass better than they the adult will ever be able to.

If they want to convincingly argue that transing children isn't abuse then they're not doing very well.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/05/2025 17:27

Great news, lets hope the only people they have in the group are medically qualified professionals who can add to the discussion and don't let the gender ideology activists anywhere near it. 🤞😁

moto748e · 21/05/2025 17:33

Through the looking glass distortions of language everywhere to be seen on that thread.

I think that peaked me as much as anything else. The obvious and cynical campaign to replace 'sex' with 'gender', both as a concept, and the actual words, in proforma, sticks out a mile. The comparisons with Newspeak are obvious. If you have no vocabulary, how can you oppose something? And on top of that, the frankly insulting 'pregnant people' and 'birthing persons' bollix. Just shows malign intent, for me.

TangenitalContrivences · 21/05/2025 17:35

I was most amused by "I LIVE IN CONSTANT FURY"

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Imnobody4 · 21/05/2025 18:01

Keira Bell's application for a Judicial review has failed due to this.

https://x.com/hannahsbee/status/1925202049773273360?t=nss5lWpB3lk6LjfKYjD-hA&s=19
CASE RESUMES: High Court is deciding whether to allow JR by Keira Bell (KB) against Health Secretary (WS) & NHSE in arguing it was "irrational" not to ban cross-sex hormones (CSH) along with puberty blockers (PB). Gov has announced new working group is looking at a pos ban now

WE'RE BACK
Lady Justice Whipple delivering judgment: permission not given to proceed to JR. Accept the government's argument that it would be 'premature' given the government has appointed a working group to look at the possibility of implementing a ban on CSH for under 18s.

https://x.com/hannahsbee/status/1925202049773273360?s=19&t=nss5lWpB3lk6LjfKYjD-hA

Imnobody4 · 21/05/2025 18:01

Is this a coincidence.

Helleofabore · 21/05/2025 18:16

This is an interesting development.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 21/05/2025 18:32

countrysidedeficit · 21/05/2025 17:24

Cries of genocide. Threats of suicide. Natural puberty being described as "forced mutilation". Reprimands for saying "cross-sex hormones" instead of "hormone replacement therapy" (with an acknowledgement they're doing so to manipulate).

Through the looking glass distortions of language everywhere to be seen on that thread.

No, trans is definitely not a cult. Why would anyone think that. Confused

There's already comments on there about how to try and preserve "DIY" access to cross-sex hormones for children. One adult saying they want children to be sterilised and mutilated so they'll pass better than they the adult will ever be able to.

If they want to convincingly argue that transing children isn't abuse then they're not doing very well.

Those comments are just a sea of mental illness. What an absolute failure of society as a whole to enable this insanity.

maltravers · 21/05/2025 19:28

Good news. Thank you OP for posting and many thanks to Hannah Bee for her ongoing work in this area - a true shero 💪🏼

Hoardasurass · 21/05/2025 20:03

I love the claims that banning cross sex hormones for under 18s will mean menopausal women (we'll over 18) won't be able to get HRT with no explanation of why they think a ban on 1 could/would/should affect access to the other

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 08:06

They need to start prosecutions for child abuse.

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/05/2025 08:36

As a culture we seem to have been elevating mental health issues to a kind of beautiful purity struggling to survive in a hostile world. Being unable to cope with reality or not primed to develop emotional and psychological resilience makes you a victim that everyone else has to look out for and to elevate. It is an idealised state of innocence and one which demands that the needs of the sufferer must be centred at every stage.

Brings to mind that book from a few years ago 'The Coddling of the American mind' which looked at the various social factors and forces which have led to this culture of safetyism.

People seem to feel better when they have a diagnosis...and we are increasingly seeing this with large numbers of people seeking diagnosis for autism and ADHD and for conditions such as Post Traumatic Stress ( PTSD)...and of course, there is always a ready pharmaceutical solution.

countrysidedeficit · 22/05/2025 12:27

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 08:06

They need to start prosecutions for child abuse.

I agree but I think we're a long way from that happening.

TangenitalContrivences · 22/05/2025 15:48

TangenitalContrivences · 21/05/2025 15:56

(TIM is cross https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1krzpjq/uk_considers_banning_crossgender_hormones_to/ )

However - good news all round.

Personally I think it should be at least up to 25

Funniest quote was:

"People throwing around the word genocide need to speak to Rwandan people. Get a grip."

Which was downvoted to oblivion.

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