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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour party plan to ensure women's posts are for women only.

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ArabellaScott · 19/05/2025 22:06

And activists are not happy.

'The proposals to restrict trans members’ engagement in internal democratic procedures - including by blocking trans women from standing in All Women’s Shortlists, excluding them from National Women’s Conferences, and preventing them standing as Women’s Officers'

www.prideinlabour.org.uk/post/joint-statement-in-response-to-leaked-nec-paper

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SionnachRuadh · 20/05/2025 19:03

If violent TRAs kicked off outside conference, it would be an illuminating experience for lots of voters.

Labour members, maybe not so much. They've got quite a capacity for unseeing inconvenient things.

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 19:06

Why does the Supreme Court ruling mean a legal challenge?

nauticant · 20/05/2025 19:12

Because if they comply with the Supreme Court judgment, violent men might kick off, so naturally they'd operate contrary to the judgment to avoid that.

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 19:17

nauticant · 20/05/2025 19:12

Because if they comply with the Supreme Court judgment, violent men might kick off, so naturally they'd operate contrary to the judgment to avoid that.

So violence = legal challenge in that tweet?

Or are they pretending there’s another challenge to avoid violence

eatfigs · 20/05/2025 20:00

https://x.com/janeclarejones/status/1924740367401787856

One of the greatest ironies of the capture of civil society is that people have managed to simultaneously believe they are defending the most vulnerable people on earth while being too scared to stand up to them.

https://x.com/janeclarejones/status/1924740367401787856

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 20:03

They simply don't want the TV and press cameras trained on a Conference Centre where weird cross dressing men are protesting outside. Especially as they are trying to look like a grown up Government.

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 20:04

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 19:17

So violence = legal challenge in that tweet?

Or are they pretending there’s another challenge to avoid violence

They are pretending the Good Law.Project might sue them? I mean, they might.

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 20:07

So funny how lefty progressives demand "safe spaces" and spaces for "people of colour only" but don't think safe spaces for women are needed or relevant.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 20:10

From what I saw of the LP Conference in 2019, it was just a weird cult of trans and Palestinian activists.

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 20:15

If only these idiots realised how much great work they are doing for Reform.

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 20:47

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 19:06

Why does the Supreme Court ruling mean a legal challenge?

Because they are trying to pretend that the supreme court ruling might somehow make the conference against the law.....fuck knows how, or why? They don't either. It is just game play by those backbenchers who still cannot come to terms with the ruling.

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 20:55

Shortshriftandlethal · 20/05/2025 20:47

Because they are trying to pretend that the supreme court ruling might somehow make the conference against the law.....fuck knows how, or why? They don't either. It is just game play by those backbenchers who still cannot come to terms with the ruling.

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If it’s not the case it’s just lying at this point isn’t it

DuesToTheDirt · 20/05/2025 20:56

Honestly, I don't know what the real reasons are behind this, but the optics are: If women won't include men in their meetings, we won't allow them to meet at all.

A couple of the rules of misogyny come to mind:

  1. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
  2. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
  3. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 21:12

sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 20:15

If only these idiots realised how much great work they are doing for Reform.

I think they've just started to realise that this is deeply unpopular among working class voters and they need their votes.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 21:15

Every time the likes of Nadia Whittome pipes up from the back benches, the LP loses votes.

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sweetsardineface · 20/05/2025 22:43

Absolutely pathetic. They know that complying with the law means telling men, no matter how they identify, that they can’t go to the conference. It’s that simple. What do they think will change between now and September?

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/05/2025 08:31

EasternStandard · 20/05/2025 20:55

If it’s not the case it’s just lying at this point isn’t it

I read this morning that the reason given was along the lines of they could be breaking the law would because if transwomen could attend but not other men they could be sued by the men not given access.

They have not read or understood the purpose or content of the ruling at all, have they?

You couldn't make it up!

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 08:44

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/05/2025 08:31

I read this morning that the reason given was along the lines of they could be breaking the law would because if transwomen could attend but not other men they could be sued by the men not given access.

They have not read or understood the purpose or content of the ruling at all, have they?

You couldn't make it up!

This party wrote the fucking law.

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ArabellaScott · 21/05/2025 08:46

It would be discriminatory against men who were barred when trans identifying men were not .

I had thought, though, they were worried that there would be challenge from trans identifying men when they had it women-only.

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sweetsardineface · 21/05/2025 08:47

It’s really not difficult: no men at a women’s conference.

sweetsardineface · 21/05/2025 08:51

Trans identifying men can challenge all they want, and probably will again whenever the conference takes place. The law is clear and Labour have to deal with it. Or, they might just cancel the conference indefinitely to save the feelings of TIMs. This would not surprise me.

orangegato · 21/05/2025 10:01

YourAmplePlumPoster · 20/05/2025 21:15

Every time the likes of Nadia Whittome pipes up from the back benches, the LP loses votes.

She is such a gift to Reform, why does Keir not shut her up? She’s embarrassing them more than they are already embarrassing themselves.

user2848502016 · 21/05/2025 11:16

This is just awful, women just don’t get a conference because some TRAs might complain?! I don’t understand how they can say there might be a legal risk when the law is clear, they jus need to make the conference WOMEN only.
I’m not a Labour Party member but would definitely cancel my membership if I were

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 11:46

ArabellaScott · 20/05/2025 20:04

They are pretending the Good Law.Project might sue them? I mean, they might.

So we have a Supreme Court ruling but people are too afraid that GLP might sue them and will just cancel stuff instead.

It’s madness. Is there a point we can have our events back

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